Ferran Soriano & Txiki Begiristain

[EalingBlue2]

If we lose our next 5 games and arsenal win them we will be out of the title race but this won't happen so why are we discussing it. We will review ok may and if we are top 4 ( we will win it) and did ok in champs league (already done) them pellegrini will get more money and move forwards

 

[St Helens Blue (Exiled)]

If we lose our next 5 games and arsenal win them we will be out of the title race but this won't happen so why are we discussing it. We will review ok may and if we are top 4 ( we will win it) and did ok in champs league (already done) them pellegrini will get more money and move forwards

Fair do's.Throwing money at it?? Is that also part of the long term plan.

 

[gelly]

Both will be out the club by end of the season. Took Roman 4 seasons to realise that sacking Mourinho was wrong.

I would love for you to be right but if it's a choice between Pellegrini should results not improve or these 2,who's arse do you think they will save???

Well they live by the sword and die by it. If Pellegrini's appointment doesn't go to plan then he goes along with the two Spaniards. Remember when the article came out saying that Khaldoon will live and die by his Mancini appointment, well he got that one right and he's still here. Pellegrini needs at least 2 seasons or more to get his head around the away issue. There will be a problem in English football with these two directors hovering around, Pellegrini is never going to get maximum out of the players, same as what happened under Mancini's last season.

In Spain it is a part of life but in England the players are used to something different.

 

[Tim of the Oak]

Agree that the 2 Barca's Boys have to go if Pellegrini fails. Hopefully these away defeats are teething problems but we can't afford many more slip ups, particularly against very beatable teams.

Pellegrini shares a problem with Mancini in that if the Barca boys Khaldoon operate an open door policy to meet disgruntled players / primadonnas, they undermine the manager and the dressing room spirit.

 

[pee dubya]

The whole point of having a director of football is to create long-term stability. So you can change coaches and retain a level of continuity and minimise disruption.

Txiki's is not judged over the period of a few months, he needs to deliver in the medium term. It's not been fantastic so far, but long term plans don't always reap immediate rewards.

Soriano's main role is away from the pitch, why he should be sacked for the team having a leaky defence, I have no idea. As far as I can see the side of the club he is responsible for is doing fantastically well.

 

[PragueBlue]

Rightly or wrongly both will be around for the next few years, regardless of the performance of the manager or team.

 

[flb]

If we lose our next 5 games and arsenal win them we will be out of the title race but this won't happen so why are we discussing it. We will review ok may and if we are top 4 ( we will win it) and did ok in champs league (already done) them pellegrini will get more money and move forwards

Fair do's.Throwing money at it?? Is that also part of the long term plan.

Its not taken long has it that perhaps we need to "throw more money at it"

Our keeper and whole defence have been thrown on the scrapheap overnight and the likes of Barry, Milner and Rodwell have either been removed or marginalised into playing bit part roles from last season.

He's allegedly good at the attacking side of the game but is proving fucking clueless at the defensive aspect of it, making a defense that has been the best in the premiership for the past three seasons into a fucking abysmal laughable one-and it stems from more than losing Vincent.

The whole World and his wife could tell you that Kolorov is fucking useless at defending but Manuel sees his role as someone good on the offensive side of things so alas hes getting plenty of starts.Demecheles may have been good in the lumbering world of La Liga but theres a reason why Bayern got shut of him and we are now seeing why they did.

His away form was shit at Malaga-why does anybody think it will be better in a far far stronger domestic league like the premiership?

Not convinced by this guy whatsoever.

 

[bernabias home shirt]

Rightly or wrongly both will be around for the next few years, regardless of the performance of the manager or team.

I'll give you Soriano will be around,seems to be doing the right things for the club
As for the other spaniard,he will be judged on results just like the manager is
If the team fail to deliver trophys & regress badly his head will roll

 

[flb]

These stats make for interesting reading


<a class="postlink" href="http://www.statto.com/football/teams/malaga/2011-2012" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.statto.com/football/teams/malaga/2011-2012</a>




He lost 58% of his away games in that season, when you take away Madrid and Barcelona he lost games to a lot of the dross in that league-a league not half as strong as the PL.

 

[Prestwich_Blue]

There are some incredibly short sighted and frankly naiive posts here that are quite staggering - out by the end if the year yes right!

Good post EB2 but I think "...incredibly short sighted and frankly naive..." is being charitable to some on here.

Their (FS & TB) task is to build a successful, profitable & sustainable football club from top to bottom, which is a long term task. It's my understanding that Pellegrini is almost irrelevant to that in the short term as there is a plan beyond his tenure.

However, as I said in a previous post, by getting us through the CL group stage, he's probably earned the value of his contract so as long as we finish in the top 4 then he's pretty well achieved his target for the season.