For those who like Mancini

[TTS]

I agree with a lot of what you say, but this bit is silly.

1) Mancini has a very very good record in domestic cup competitions over the course of his career. 2) I couldn't name many sides that would beat the rags over 2 legs.

I know you're trying to inject some balance, but I don't think criticizing Mancini's cup record is the right way to do it.

You're missing my point. A poster claimed Hughes was "shit" - yet his cup record with the same squad was far better than Mancini's.

Of course, you're more likely to do well in a cup in the early stages. Hughes didn't have to play one of the top teams in Europe at full strength in a KO competition. Should have beaten the rags though :D

 

[Jim Tolmie's Underpants]

You're missing my point. A poster claimed Hughes was "shit" - yet his cup record with the same squad was far better than Mancini's.

Scunthorpe, Fulham reserves and Arsenal reserves hardly constitutes tough tests.

Arsenal beat Liverpool. And we beat a full strength Arsenal in the league.

And Stoke wasn't exactly a "tough test" was it?! Yet Mancini bombed out.

Of course Hughes had a magnificent record in the cups last season with City didn't he......

His first season - and with a far inferior squad than this season.

-- Fri Apr 02, 2010 4:00 pm --

Of course, you're more likely to do well in a cup in the early stages.

Er - tell that to Mancini.

 

[TTS]

Scunthorpe, Fulham reserves and Arsenal reserves hardly constitutes tough tests.

Arsenal beat Liverpool. And we beat a full strength Arsenal in the league.

And Stoke wasn't exactly a "tough test" was it?! Yet Mancini bombed out.

Of course Hughes had a magnificent record in the cups last season with City didn't he......

His first season - and with a far inferior squad than this season.

-- Fri Apr 02, 2010 4:00 pm --

Of course, you're more likely to do well in a cup in the early stages.

Er - tell that to Mancini.

I would suggest that the end of next season would be an apt time to judge Mancini re domestic cups. I am inclined to believe that a man who won the Coppa Italia with Fiorentina (dire financial conditions), Lazio (dire financial conditions) and Inter Milan in a short space of time might actually be quite good at it. No, on second thoughts, I'm sure Hughes would have done the same in the same conditions....right?

 

[robbieh]

Scunthorpe, Fulham reserves and Arsenal reserves hardly constitutes tough tests.

Arsenal beat Liverpool. And we beat a full strength Arsenal in the league.

And Stoke wasn't exactly a "tough test" was it?! Yet Mancini bombed out.

Of course Hughes had a magnificent record in the cups last season with City didn't he......

His first season - and with a far inferior squad than this season.-- Fri Apr 02, 2010 4:00 pm --

Of course, you're more likely to do well in a cup in the early stages.

Er - tell that to Mancini.

That far inferior squad included Robinho, Elano, Kompany, SWP, Ireland, Dunne, Richards, Petrov, Hart, Nedum, Zabaleta, Bojinov etc that bombed out to Brighton and Nottingham Forest

 

[Jim Tolmie's Underpants]

Arsenal beat Liverpool. And we beat a full strength Arsenal in the league.

And Stoke wasn't exactly a "tough test" was it?! Yet Mancini bombed out.



His first season - and with a far inferior squad than this season.-- Fri Apr 02, 2010 4:00 pm --



Er - tell that to Mancini.

That far inferior squad included Robinho, Elano, Kompany, SWP, Ireland, Dunne, Richards, Petrov, Hart, Nedum, Zabaleta, Bojinov etc that bombed out to Brighton and Nottingham Forest

And exactly where are Elano, Robinho and Bojinov now? They got transfered/loaned cos they weren't good enough!

SWP was hardly flying last season. Dunne wasn't as good as in previous years.

Like I said - it was a far inferior squad than the one Hughes got to the semi. FACT.

 

[Gelsons Dad]

That far inferior squad included Robinho, Elano, Kompany, SWP, Ireland, Dunne, Richards, Petrov, Hart, Nedum, Zabaleta, Bojinov etc that bombed out to Brighton and Nottingham Forest

And exactly where are Elano, Robinho and Bojinov now? They got transfered/loaned cos they weren't good enough!

SWP was hardly flying last season. Dunne wasn't as good as in previous years.

Like I said - it was a far inferior squad than the one Hughes got to the semi. FACT.

They got transferred/loaned because Hughes was unable to manage them and lost their support and therefore their commitment to city.

Your belief that Hughes did well to get us to the semi smacks of idolisation. The cold facts are it was a gimme.

 

[scorer]

They got transferred/loaned because Hughes was unable to manage them and lost their support and therefore their commitment to city.

Your belief that Hughes did well to get us to the semi smacks of idolisation. The cold facts are it was a gimme.

^^^ THIS MANY TIMES OVER^^^^

Accept it he was a poor manager with a poor management team that did very poorly with the resources at his disposal. Sven got us into Europe, he didn't... remember the games against Midgyetland Aalbourg....?

Then failing to qualify this season.... the man was and is clueless and the fact clubs aint been falling over themselves to sign him up says it all. They can see his shortcomings which were so blatantly obvious at City that he will end up with a mid table Prem side or in the Championship.

 

[Jim Tolmie's Underpants]

And exactly where are Elano, Robinho and Bojinov now? They got transfered/loaned cos they weren't good enough!

SWP was hardly flying last season. Dunne wasn't as good as in previous years.

Like I said - it was a far inferior squad than the one Hughes got to the semi. FACT.

They got transferred/loaned because Hughes was unable to manage them and lost their support and therefore their commitment to city.

Huh? Robinho got loaned by Mancini. Why? Because, like Hughes found out, Robinho is a lazy waster. Everton away ring any bells?

And the rest is pure speculation.

Your belief that Hughes did well to get us to the semi smacks of idolisation.

No, it's called realism. If you cannot give some credit to the manager who got us to our first semi in over 20 years and say 'well done - good job', then it just shows how your antipathy towards Hughes has twisted your view of what a good achievement it was.

The cold facts are it was a gimme.

Okaaay....

 

[Anonymous]

They got transferred/loaned because Hughes was unable to manage them and lost their support and therefore their commitment to city.

Your belief that Hughes did well to get us to the semi smacks of idolisation. The cold facts are it was a gimme.

^^^ THIS MANY TIMES OVER^^^^

Accept it he was a poor manager with a poor management team that did very poorly with the resources at his disposal. Sven got us into Europe, he didn't... remember the games against Midgyetland Aalbourg....?

Then failing to qualify this season.... the man was and is clueless and the fact clubs aint been falling over themselves to sign him up says it all. They can see his shortcomings which were so blatantly obvious at City that he will end up with a mid table Prem side or in the Championship.

More of less the same West Ham side from this season finished above us last season.

Hughes was shit, and will always be shit which is why he will never get a top job in the future.

FACT<br /><br />-- Sat Apr 03, 2010 12:01 am --<br /><br />

They got transferred/loaned because Hughes was unable to manage them and lost their support and therefore their commitment to city.

Huh? Robinho got loaned by Mancini. Why? Because, like Hughes found out, Robinho is a lazy waster. Everton away ring any bells?

And the rest is pure speculation.

Your belief that Hughes did well to get us to the semi smacks of idolisation.

No, it's called realism. If you cannot give some credit to the manager who got us to our first semi in over 20 years and say 'well done - good job', then it just shows how your antipathy towards Hughes has twisted your view of what a good achievement it was.

The cold facts are it was a gimme.

Okaaay....

My nan could of got us to the semi finals of the carling cup if she played Crystal Palace, Scunthorpe, Fulham reserves (she wouldn't of needed extra time either!!!) and Arsenal reserves.

All this "Hughes would of beaten United in the semi's" is based on what? Two of the limpest, flat performances ever in a derby game?

 

[Gelsons Dad]

They got transferred/loaned because Hughes was unable to manage them and lost their support and therefore their commitment to city.

Huh? Robinho got loaned by Mancini. Why? Because, like Hughes found out, Robinho is a lazy waster. Everton away ring any bells?

And the rest is pure speculation.


Okaaay....

Here is what I posted when I heard Hughes had got rid of Elano

Gelsons Dad
Post subject: Re: How will robinho react now elano has gone!!Posted: Thu Jul 30, 2009 10:59 am


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Knowing the Brazilian temperament very well having spent the last 6 years working with them I expect Robbie to have a crap year and predict people will be saying get rid by the end of the year. This was a very strong move by MH who better not fall out with any of our new players or we are fucked.

The reason we lost Robinho was because we lost Elano and that was all down to Hughes.

As for Robinho being a waster, he was our top scoring and assisting waster last season before Hughes fucked us over.