there are pro's and con's with each manager, and one thing which i belive is important for txixi is that we get some academy players through the ranks, which i dont see will happen with mancini, however with DeBoer we should have a higher change of producing academy players, which i personally would love more than anything.. Id say the next ronaldo/messi should come through our ranks... maybe Pozo? lopez? but only with DeBoer i think. or Klopp. id love him.. just my thoughts.
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Frank De Boer (new boss?)
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avoidconfusion said:Why the FUCK would we switch Mancini for an unproven manager like de Boer?
Just for a counter point, as we're all about equality here, Rijkaard, Klopp and Pep were all arguably less proven than De Boer before their respective Barca and Dortmund appointments. All were, and are in the case of Klopp huge successes.
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I want Klopp, because I'd love to hear the chant.
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If they are good enough Mancini will play them, he has proven that already at City.spinzer said:there are pro's and con's with each manager, and one thing which i belive is important for txixi is that we get some academy players through the ranks, which i dont see will happen with mancini, however with DeBoer we should have a higher change of producing academy players, which i personally would love more than anything.. Id say the next ronaldo/messi should come through our ranks... maybe Pozo? lopez? but only with DeBoer i think. or Klopp. id love him.. just my thoughts.
If they impress in their league games and training sessions they get moved into the first team sessions and again if they impress they play, see Rekik v Reading.
Also at Ajax, De Boer doesn't have much choice but to promote youth, if he was given 50m a year to spend would he still promote so many youth players?
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The perfect fumble said:I want Klopp, because I'd love to hear the chant.
"If you're happy and you know it Klopp your hands"?
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Robinho's Subbuteo said:The perfect fumble said:I want Klopp, because I'd love to hear the chant.
"If you're happy and you know it Klopp your hands"?
lol, mancini out!!!
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City can win chelsea and man u in mancini hand.i support mancini.because we need win the title back next season.
adrianr said:avoidconfusion said:Why the FUCK would we switch Mancini for an unproven manager like de Boer?
Just for a counter point, as we're all about equality here, Rijkaard, Klopp and Pep were all arguably less proven than De Boer before their respective Barca and Dortmund appointments. All were, and are in the case of Klopp huge successes.
Really, all of those mentioned have managed clubs in two horse leagues and with teams with better finances than all but one of their rivals. One has vanished into the ether, two haven't won as many league titles as bobby, two haven't managed outside of their won country and none of them have taken a club that hasn't won a trophy in 35 years and a title in over 44. We have shone this week that we are the best team, he has had a huge impact on that and he also told everyone we needed to strengthen and he was ignored.
i wouldnt give mancini a third chance to fuck up in the champions league,2 chances yes but he ballsd the 2nd one more than the first and his man management is shocking god knows how this years signings has felt when all he has said all year is if i got the players id wanted we would be doing better, plus him saying iv got to spend big to match united is ridiculous he has spent enough already and it hardly won us the title in convincing fashion if mancini wasnt with us and suddenly the barce real bayern united jobs came up i doubt mancini would be at the top of those lists to take any of them over, just my feelings and opinions of course.
VOOMER said:Really, all of those mentioned have managed clubs in two horse leagues and with teams with better finances than all but one of their rivals.
Oh the irony in that statement. What clubs, other than the current top two in the premier league, are even remotely close to challenging for the title at this moment?
VOOMER said:two haven't won as many league titles as bobby,
How many per year? What were the resources used to achieve success? Those questions aren't trivial or irrelevant, they are the fundamentals of criticisms of Mancini. Mancini won all his Serie A titles off the events of the Italian Ref scandal, and won the title with us after massive expenditures, and United bottling a massive lead in unprecedented style.
Hardly a lack of success, and we all will respect and thank the man for where he's taken this club. But his quality aren't as spectacular as reading them from a list would make his management career appear to be. Three Serie A titles in a row, WOW! Oh wait, all the top opponents (their equivalent of United, Chelsea, Arsenal being sent to the championship) were stripped of 15 points or relegated? Not quite as impressive then.
VOOMER said:two haven't managed outside of their won country and none of them have taken a club that hasn't won a trophy in 35 years and a title in over 44.
Again, resources used to achieve success are more important the amount of time since the last title. A typical club changes its entire squad and backroom staff over a decade, so the "since last trophy" argument is empty. Other than the fans, this Manchester City side has very little in common with the Goater-raping-Neville Derby days.
VOOMER said:We have shone this week that we are the best team, he has had a huge impact on that
While no one refutes that he has built one hell of a team, it does speak volumes that the best team in the land has been absolutely humbled by the rags. Yes, they've borderline cheated and influenced the refs into 10-odd points, but they've been vastly more consistent.
Just use a bit of History. Mancini won, what, 3 titles on the bounce? He gets sacked after building an amazing team (that underwhelmed in Europe), and Inter win the fucking treble with Mourinho a year later. He has shown his limitation, and its in Europe.
Mansour wants European success, and at this point, simply making it to the final 16 would be a major upgrade on the two campaigns Mancini has botched.
VOOMER said:and he also told everyone we needed to strengthen and he was ignored.
Yes, and he didn't get the 100 Million pounds worth of players he wanted. He signed off on the signings we did make (Garcia, for instance, was Mancini's pick mid-summer). I'd think that Khaldoon will already have made a decision if Mancini's only argument is that he didn't get to blow another 100 Million in the transfer market.