Gabriel Jesus joins Arsenal

manimanc said:
Pep is the master of doing something out of the blue. If you don't embrace it you end up sounding like a fanny.
Exhibit A up above.

Gabby was great for us but he could never get to the levels what pep wanted.

I don't want to badmouth him as he gave his all for us and he's entitled to feel hurt if he doesn't play. Every time I hear his name I just see this in my head..

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Yeah, I feel the same. I still wish him all the best for what he helped us, and just the expand my thought, I don't see is there anything to criticize him for:

1. To be fair, is the decision to put Zinchenko at false nine a strange decision? Yes (I'm saying it's strange, I'm not saying it's bad). So if I were G.Jesus, would I feel disappointed? Well, I may not cry because I'm not at 20s anymore, but yes, I would feel disappointed. G.Jesus cried or not didn't really matter much. Actually, cried to his mom is much better than shouting at teammates or managers (like Ibrahimovic).
2. After that, did G.Jesus cause trouble in dressing room like Cancelo or Yaya Toure? No, he didn't.
3. And when Pep decided to play him, did he try his best to help the team? Yes, he did.

So, with all of that, he still respect him, wish him to get success in another club.
 
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That assist he is claiming against PSG is actually a mis hit tap from 7 yards which Sterling poked into the goal at the back post.

Sums it all up really
 
mccity said:
A friend pointed me towards the Arsenal reddit with all the highlights, including a mention of his return to the Etihad:


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  • The reason why Jesus was unhappy at City was because of Guardiola. He did not like many of his decisions. Jesus mentions a couple of games, but he was especially pissed off about the PSG game (November 2021). Jesus said he felt he was playing really well and receiving great feedback from Guardiola and everyone else in the coaching staff. The team trained the entire week with him playing ST, and then 2 hours before the game Guardiola put in Zinchenko as False 9. Jesus was fuming and called his mom saying he wanted to leave. He didn’t even warm up before the game. Then at around half time, Zinchenko was subbed off, Jesus came in and scored to win the game. He said he felt bad and wouldn’t do what he did in other circumstances but it is what it is.
  • Said he was unhappy with the lack of communication with Guardiola. And despite City wanting him there, he knew if he stayed he would have been playing as a winger with Haaland coming, which he did not want to do. Guardiola was the one that told him that Arteta wanted to talk.
  • Edu started his first conversation with Jesus by saying he wanted the old Gabriel back, happy and carefree. Jesus said it surprised him how personal Edu was in the interview, and how he only presented the project later with Mikel. (Jesus said he likes Edu a lot, and that Edu is a really nice guy, Denilson, one of the the hosts of the podcast and an ex player, agreed saying Edu is really nice.)
  • Jesus mentioned he does not care about money or where he plays, the most important thing is the project. And mentioned how Edu and Mikel were pivotal in his decision to move to Arsenal. They made a great pitch and made him feel at ease with playing time and position. Jesus said one of his main prerequisites was to come in and play as a number 9.
  • Mentioned how Guardiola and Arteta's playstyles are similar but Arteta wants more intensity and more directness. Said he felt it suited a younger team like Arsenal.
  • David Silva was the best player he played with at City, alongside Bernardo Silva.
  • Said at City everything had to be communicated to the coaching staff. He could never do extra training without communicating to the staff because the standard proccedure was for players to rest. Said his closeness with Arteta began with all the extra work they did together, Jesus said he learned a lot with Arteta. When Arteta left, he didn't do as much extra work.
  • At Arsenal, it is different. The training and gym work are more intense, said his body is at a better level now. At City he arrived for training at 9:30h left at 12h. With Arsenal, he starts at 9:30h and leaves at 15h/16h. So with City he felt he had to do some more extra work because he wasn't a starter and the training wasn't as intense. With Arsenal he feels he does not need the extra work, so instead he started to focus more on rest. He learned to sleep better, and eat better.
  • Said Arteta does not physically train as much with the team like he did at City. At City he trained more and Fernandinho, specifically, always fouled Arteta because of his speed with the ball. Denilson, one of the hosts, said he played with Arteta and mentioned how good he was on midfield, said his first touch was great and he saw a potential coach in him.
  • Said he was happy City fans did not boo him when he played at the Etihad this year. He did not know what to expect and was happily surprised.
Some random stuff Jesus also said:

  • Aguero and Guardiola had quite a few fights, as Aguero did not train as hard, and had trouble with his diet.
  • Said Martinelli, Saka and Odegaard are some of the best young players in the world now. Also mentioned Foden, Bellingham and Julian Alvarez. Said Foden can hit the ball from any angle, falling down, rabona, the ball always goes in smoothly.
  • Jesus also talked about how he thinks Foden might, eventually, butt heads with Guardiola over playing time.
  • He does not care about social media as much as he did in the past. Now he is married, settled down and prefers staying home with his wife and young daughter.
He talked about other things but it was mostly his Palmeiras days and Brazil NT, I don't know if Arsenal fans want to hear about these other topics. If you guys do, I could edit the post later with some more information.


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The stuff about not training as much with Pep makes perfect sense to why Arsenal faltered. Arteta was riding them even in the preseason when the wiped out Chelsea in Orlando.You cannot keep up that pace for 10 months and you saw it slowly wear them out.

Pep is smart enough to understand that sometimes less is more with such a busy schedule if you are providing more quality in those 2 1/2 hours. The players get what they need and don't get run down mentally and physically. The mythology of having to work eight hours to somehow feel productive is what leads to burn out, especially if those eight hours aren't used effectively.

mrbelfry said:
Being disappointed not to play and then coming off the bench to score the winner is the kind of attitude I want in a player. Being happy to sit on the bench won't make you a big game player at City. For me it shows how tough it must be to play for Pep and you would be gutted to train all week in a position then find yourself not in the team. He was a young man so why wouldn't he ring his mum to express his disappointment? Would it be healthier if he was walking around punching walls and screaming at the kit man?
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Yes. But there's also a mature way to handle it too. Withdrawing isn't it. Easy to forget Gundo and Sterling were both upset at not starting against Villa and then came on to be critical in the winning the league.
 
Great footballer, honest and always gives 100%. Just doesn't convert chances to goals often or consistently enough for a top side as we know and arsenal are finding out. I don't know why this is, he's a much more technically gifted player than others with more impressive numbers.
 
As soon as an ex player bad mouths the club... no matter what they achieved or how good they were, they're dead in my eyes ;-)
 
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