Garcia

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Doesn't matter what we think of him now, he is part of our squad and we should wish him well in what is going to be a difficult season. Pelli knows more about his abilities than we do and had no qualms about putting him in the team. He's never had a proper run in his best position so it can't be easy for him.
I've also decided to get behind my least favourite player, Kolorov. He's managed to survive again and remains part of the squad,. If it's going to be a successful season
we willnneed strong performances from everyone so we should get behind them all.
 
CTID101 said:
Matt.D said:
Fuck me how is this debate still going. He has been called up for Spain. Torres still gets called up for Spain and hes been very average for the best part of 3 years. it doesn't take away the fact Garcia has never had a good game in the English premier league and is surely the slowest central midfielder in the league.

His game has never and will never suit the premier league. You don't have to be Usain Bolt to play his position but you have to be able to move & turn quicker than a double decker bus, Garcia cannot.
To be fair, Spain haven't had that many strikers tearing up trees. Negredo and Soldado aside who have been in the squad at times as well.

Spain have a insane amount of class midfielders. Garcia is still there.

Slowest central midfielder in the league?, stats say that his highest speed was better than Toure's. So second slowest at best ;)

You better recalibrate that speedometer then
 
Mad_fer_it said:
CTID101 said:
Matt.D said:
Fuck me how is this debate still going. He has been called up for Spain. Torres still gets called up for Spain and hes been very average for the best part of 3 years. it doesn't take away the fact Garcia has never had a good game in the English premier league and is surely the slowest central midfielder in the league.

His game has never and will never suit the premier league. You don't have to be Usain Bolt to play his position but you have to be able to move & turn quicker than a double decker bus, Garcia cannot.
To be fair, Spain haven't had that many strikers tearing up trees. Negredo and Soldado aside who have been in the squad at times as well.

Spain have a insane amount of class midfielders. Garcia is still there.

Slowest central midfielder in the league?, stats say that his highest speed was better than Toure's. So second slowest at best ;)

You better recalibrate that speedometer then

Surely that makes him worse, if his highest speed is better than Toure's then he can't be trying hard enough, and that was the only thing I gave him any credit for, he tries!!!
 
BringBackSwales said:
Fucking hell, why do people have to keep constantly coming on here and saying such and such a player (in particular Garcia) is fucking shite - it has been said so many fucking times, how about shutting the fuck up and accepting he is A MANCHESTER CITY PLAYER and getting off his back. It is as disgusting as it is ridiculous, some of the abuse of CITY PLAYERS is vile

Errrrm aren't we discussing this on a forum that it is all about opinions? The majority on here acknowledge Garcia is shite and slow, but have you ever once heard anybody boo him during a game? I haven't and I've barely missed a game in the last 12 months. Just because we say he's shit doesn't mean we won't support him when he's selected. So this "vile abuse" you speak of is a nonsense.
 
Matt.D said:
BringBackSwales said:
Fucking hell, why do people have to keep constantly coming on here and saying such and such a player (in particular Garcia) is fucking shite - it has been said so many fucking times, how about shutting the fuck up and accepting he is A MANCHESTER CITY PLAYER and getting off his back. It is as disgusting as it is ridiculous, some of the abuse of CITY PLAYERS is vile

Errrrm aren't we discussing this on a forum that it is all about opinions? The majority on here acknowledge Garcia is shite and slow, but have you ever once heard anybody boo him during a game? I haven't and I've barely missed a game in the last 12 months. Just because we say he's shit doesn't mean we won't support him when he's selected. So this "vile abuse" you speak of is a nonsense.

Agreed. I enjoyed the debate. I've been partialy converted but still ultimateley don't think he is suitable to us still.

World of difference to shouting at him personally.
 
Seriously can someone please just tell me what he's actually done wrong?

I've asked that question about 5 times, you'd think if he was so incredibly shit there might be a couple of times people could pick out.
 
NQCitizen said:
Seriously can someone please just tell me what he's actually done wrong?

I've asked that question about 5 times, you'd think if he was so incredibly shit there might be a couple of times people could pick out.

He plays majority of his games in central midfield , just because you can't think of any direct errors that have led to goals don't change the fact he is abysmal. Cardiff could have easily scored 3 more from open play due to his lack of pace albeit in a position that is not his 'speciality'. We almost play with 10 men when he's on the field because in every single game he's played people have walked past him like he isn't there and he spends the entire game chasing shadows when we don't have the ball. His passing (even short passes) is woeful, always bobbling and behind the man. He doesn't bring any qualities to the side other than being a threat from set pieces.
 
Matt.D said:
NQCitizen said:
Seriously can someone please just tell me what he's actually done wrong?

I've asked that question about 5 times, you'd think if he was so incredibly shit there might be a couple of times people could pick out.

He plays majority of his games in central midfield , just because you can't think of any direct errors that have led to goals don't change the fact he is abysmal. We almost play with 10 men when he's on the field because in every single game he's played people have walked past him like he isn't there and he spends the entire game chasing shadows when we don't have the ball. His passing (even short passes) is woeful, always bobbling and behind the ball. He doesn't bring any qualities to the side other than being a threat from set pieces.

His passing is accurate and safe statistically, he never gets beaten in the air and he fills in the gaps the full backs leave, as I see it.

Statistically he doesn't actually get beaten that often, I think that pitfall is just exaggerated by his lack of agility in recovery. It's not like Yaya, Fernandinho or Barry are an impenetrable wall either.
 
NQCitizen said:
Matt.D said:
NQCitizen said:
Seriously can someone please just tell me what he's actually done wrong?

I've asked that question about 5 times, you'd think if he was so incredibly shit there might be a couple of times people could pick out.

He plays majority of his games in central midfield , just because you can't think of any direct errors that have led to goals don't change the fact he is abysmal. We almost play with 10 men when he's on the field because in every single game he's played people have walked past him like he isn't there and he spends the entire game chasing shadows when we don't have the ball. His passing (even short passes) is woeful, always bobbling and behind the ball. He doesn't bring any qualities to the side other than being a threat from set pieces.

His passing is accurate and safe statistically, he never gets beaten in the air and he fills in the gaps the full backs leave, as I see it.

Statistically he doesn't actually get beaten that often, I think that pitfall is just exaggerated by his lack of agility in recovery. It's not like Yaya, Fernandinho or Barry are an impenetrable wall either.

Agree with your last sentence, they are not impenetrable & our central midfield with or without Garcia will still get overrun badly when we don't have the ball against good opposition IMO. Don't agree with the rest but will agree to disagree.
 
BringBackSwales said:
Fucking hell, why do people have to keep constantly coming on here and saying such and such a player (in particular Garcia) is fucking shite - it has been said so many fucking times, how about shutting the fuck up and accepting he is A MANCHESTER CITY PLAYER and getting off his back. It is as disgusting as it is ridiculous, some of the abuse of CITY PLAYERS is vile


Congrats mate, your the biggest blue on here. Uberfan you are. Garcia's slow. He doesn't read the game well. He doesn't play the ball more than 5 yards. He's bat turd. I don't slag him off when I'm at the game, but it won't stop me expressing my views on here. Fair play to the lad he makes at least 80 grand and I don't make £400 a week but it doesn't hide he's shite, we bought him for 16 million and got rid of Nigel De Jong or never went for Pogba. Depressing.
 
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