bluethrunthru
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we will always need a silly mid off lol
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BobKowalski
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I’ve described how I’d define native population above. A lineage that stretches back centuries to that part of the world is native in my eyes.
That’s not to say non natives should be treated any differently I’m just saying retaining a majority for the people who have been there for ages, for any country, is reasonable and just.
You achieve this by not allowing mass immigration to the levels we’ve seen, in particular areas.
You mean white.
Deport this person immediacy ;-)I wouldn't pass Tebbit's cricket test.
Nope.You mean white.
My niece is black and has ancestry on her mother’s side reaching back to Norman conquest of England at least.
David Lammy had a row about genetics with a woman on LBC I saw, he said he had heritage in Scotland stretching back centuries.
Cheddar man wasn’t white.
I could go on…
BobKowalski
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Nope.
My niece is black and has ancestry on her mother’s side reaching back to Norman conquest of England at least.
David Lammy had a row about genetics with a woman on LBC I saw, he said he had heritage in Scotland stretching back centuries.
Cheddar man wasn’t white.
I could go on…
So, unless you have ancestry stretching back centuries you are not native?
This is an arbitrary measure, it precludes people who are born in this country to foreign born parents or parent (from the article) from having an affinity to this country, or considering themselves as English or Scottish or Welsh.
Would your niece consider herself any less English or British if she couldn't trace an ancestor back to the Normans- who were French of Scandavian descent?
It puts up a barrier to assimilation, it states that unless you can trace your lineage back to the Normans or some other arbitrary date you cannot class yourself as native or ‘properly English or British’. I'm not even sure I would pass as ‘native’. How many centuries do I need?
The England team is going to need a major rethink.
BobKowalski
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Nope.
My niece is black and has ancestry on her mother’s side reaching back to Norman conquest of England at least.
David Lammy had a row about genetics with a woman on LBC I saw, he said he had heritage in Scotland stretching back centuries.
Cheddar man wasn’t white.
I could go on…
...do you make prospective neighbours take a DNA test to see if they are native? Can't have too many ‘non-natives’ moving in. Think of the neighbourhood.
bluethrunthru
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...do you make prospective neighbours take a DNA test to see if they are native? Can't have too many ‘non-natives’ moving in. Think of the neighbourhood.
No Dogs - No Irish - come on you know this song...........
There’s a big difference between being a British National and having a native lineage to England, Scotland, Wales and NI.So, unless you have ancestry stretching back centuries you are not native?
This is an arbitrary measure, it precludes people who are born in this country to foreign born parents or parent (from the article) from having an affinity to this country, or considering themselves as English or Scottish or Welsh.
Would your niece consider herself any less English or British if she couldn't trace an ancestor back to the Normans- who were French of Scandavian descent?
It puts up a barrier to assimilation, it states that unless you can trace your lineage back to the Normans or some other arbitrary date you cannot class yourself as native or ‘properly English or British’. I'm not even sure I would pass as ‘native’. How many centuries do I need?
The England team is going to need a major rethink.
I was careful in saying that this isn’t a difference in how we treat people already in this country, a British Citizen is a British Citizen and should be treated the same as everyone else.
But then the question is raised that is Amir Khan, the boxer, as an example, as English as I am or as native as I am?
I would say obviously not.
No of course not....do you make prospective neighbours take a DNA test to see if they are native? Can't have too many ‘non-natives’ moving in. Think of the neighbourhood.
The way to tackle it is to limit immigration, have an actual policy of integration and encourage immigrants to move to other areas of the UK that A) need them more and B) have low immigration levels currently.
Here I was thinking we could have an adult conversation.No Dogs - No Irish - come on you know this song...........
Silly me.