General Election - 4th July 2024

[SebastianBlue]

Being lied to and entering an illegal war?

Tony Blair was a ****, not sure of any reasonable person would argue otherwise.

But that iteration of Labour is not equivalent to what exists now, so it’s not a good comparison to make for assessing current probable government impact on prosperity and security between Labour and Tories.

Is the current iteration of the Labour Party flawed?

Absolutely it is.

Is it much less flawed that the current iteration of the Conservative Party?

I and many others would argue it is.

Will there be dysfunction with a Labour government?

Most assuredly so. Even if they are much more effective and cohesive than the ramshackle Tory reign, they are being handed a largely broken and delegitimised government, an obliterate economy, and an electorate that is largely desperate and angry. It will take quite awhile—and an immense amount of work and political patience—to repair the damage and get the nation back on a course toward anything resembling prosperity.

Is there a higher probability of recognising, pulling back from, and mitigating disastrous policies, actions, and relationships undertaken (or undermined) over the past near decade and a half if Labour takes power?

I and many others would argue there is.

And that probability is all that there is. We don’t live in a world where we can blow up the system and start again. I wish we did—but that would cause far more hardship and destruction than even the current Tory government. And, anyway, those sort of revolutions almost always actually lead to despotic regimes.

This is all there is, for better or worse.

 

[Vienna_70]

I thought folk were fighting for the right to paaaaaaaaarrrrrtttyyyyyyy

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[west didsblue]

What do any of the politicians do to get them?

He wasn’t a politician when he got his.

 

[The Black Shed]

What do the markets think or will we see reaction tomorrow?

 

[Fordyboy46]

Makes me wonder if Sunak knows some big shit is happening soon and wants out. Very strange timing this election

 

[blueparrot]

Time will tell…

It will, I’m not even a labour voter though I have been, but thinking it won’t be better than the last 8 years of this shambles takes some immagination.

 

[Scottyboi]

Being lied to and entering an illegal war?

Where the majority of the info came from a prisoner America tortured.

 

[supercity88]

What did Starmer do to get a knighthood?

Services to law and criminal justice.

 

[meltonblue]

Madness by the Tories. They cannot win this election. So good news I hope. Disappointed to hear the music in the background by people around Downing St. these people should show some respect. Hopefully a better Britain is on the way.

Thought that entire announcement was one of the most British things I’ve ever seen! Sunak announcing a summer election when it’s pissing down with rain with no umbrella, despite them spending a few million on a brand new media briefing room, and also being simultaneously drowned out by that song too was all just beyond satire, it was that good.

 

[west didsblue]

What do the markets think or will we see reaction tomorrow?

I suspect they will already have the prospect of a Labour government later this year priced in and we won’t see much change. I could easily be wrong though.