General Election - 4th July 2024

[carlosthejackal]

No doubt there are mitigating circumstances for Covid but don't try and pretend that this country wasn't well on its way to getting fucked before Covid became a thing. And that's all down to the Tories and no fucker else.

Record taxes
Record net migration
Record illegal immigration
Highest inflation rates since the late 70s
Brexit and Johnson's shitty oven ready deal which isn't worth a fucking wank because he allowed himself to be rolled over by the EU
Liz Truss and Kamikaze Kwarteng's suicidal budget which cost the country tens of billions of pounds and saw mortgage rates rocket

They're just a few things and most of them are fuck-all to do with Covid. And that's before we get on to scandal after scandal after fucking scandal. Yet here you are still voting for the fuckers. You need to give your head a fucking wobble sunshine

And Johnson is the biggest liar ever to hold the office of Prime Minister .

 

[Churchlawtonblue]

As a landlord who leveraged multiple properties to build up his portfolio, do you admit that you played a small part in land value inflation?

Excuse me for butting in, but being a landlord or multiple rented properties doesn't really have an affect on general property inflation imo, unless you buy multiple properties to keep them empty which clearly isnt the case in the vast majority of instances.

If there were more houses than people wanting them then property prices wouldn't inflate. Surely its just simply supply and demand economics?

 

[metalblue]

That’s not accurate. Assuming those 1995 fees are correct (no reason to think they aren’t as they were £15,345 for 1999 AY), it would be £33k. Still way short of the £49k it is today mind.

Since 2010 when the fees were £30.150 they have tracked with inflation (slightly below). It may be there was a large increase in students attending private schools between 1995 and 2010 - supply and demand and all that.

 

[bluenova]

Empathy is not the most important thing in decision making - the first thing I want from a PM is an ability to make decisions.

It’s why it’s a shit job because no matter how compassionate you want those decisions to be you can’t be all things to all folk. This is where I see Starmer’s biggest weakness.

I didn't say empathy was the most important thing in making decisions.

I was replying to a post which asked about wealthy and successful people being "in touch" with the rest of the country.

There are clearly plenty of things a good PM needs apart from empathy. I'm suggesting that a PM who isn't empathetic; who doesn't actually understand the impact of their role; is unlikely to be a good PM.

I don't think it's too much to expect a PM to also have other skills on top :)

 

[Alan Harper's Tash]

 

[bluenova]

That’s not accurate. Assuming those 1995 fees are correct (no reason to think they aren’t as they were £15,345 for 1999 AY), it would be £33k. Still way short of the £49k it is today mind.

Since 2010 when the fees were £30.150 they have tracked with inflation (slightly below). It may be there was a large increase in students attending private schools between 1995 and 2010 - supply and demand and all that.

Are you sure? The Bank of England inflation calculator makes it £24k.

Inflation calculator

Use our inflation calculator to check how prices in the UK have changed over time, from 1209 to now.

www.bankofengland.co.uk

 

[bluethrunthru]

No doubt there are mitigating circumstances for Covid but don't try and pretend that this country wasn't well on its way to getting fucked before Covid became a thing. And that's all down to the Tories and no fucker else.

Record taxes
Record net migration
Record illegal immigration
Highest inflation rates since the late 70s
Brexit and Johnson's shitty oven ready deal which isn't worth a fucking wank because he allowed himself to be rolled over by the EU
Liz Truss and Kamikaze Kwarteng's suicidal budget which cost the country tens of billions of pounds and saw mortgage rates rocket

They're just a few things and most of them are fuck-all to do with Covid. And that's before we get on to scandal after scandal after fucking scandal. Yet here you are still voting for the fuckers. You need to give your head a fucking wobble sunshine

Two points

1/ Johnson wasn't rolled over by the EU. Johnson was rolled over by himself. He promised something that was a fantasy he engineered to fit the desires of his cult which required 27 other countries to bow to his will. Unlikely as he didn't even have all of his own country onside
2/ Illegal migration is entirely a problem of their own making - not only in the obvious way but they made everyone who came here an illegal in their act of 2023. The idea that you decide not to deal with refugee's properly then when its out of control you decide the best thing to do is to declare them all illegal is somehow a fix is deranged madness. The idea they have granted so many visa's last year is a clear ( yet denied) example of how our economy needs immigration just to bump along the bottom never mind grow

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

It’s probably quite different forensically cross examining a liar on the witness stand to dealing with a blatant liar in a political debate who is allowed to speak over him and gets a level of protection from the moderator.

Unquestionably, but the art of cross examination doesn’t require a highly developed ability to think on your feet - although it unquestionably helps.

 

[City Hobgoblin]

Some wise words in that response. Housing costs are crippling in this country and a rapidly rising population only makes that worse.

There are plenty of new builds around here but the cheapest start at £300,000 or so.
All those new apartments in Manchester similar.

 

[The Light Was Yellow Sir]

That’s not accurate. Assuming those 1995 fees are correct (no reason to think they aren’t as they were £15,345 for 1999 AY), it would be £33k. Still way short of the £49k it is today mind.

Since 2010 when the fees were £30.150 they have tracked with inflation (slightly below). It may be there was a large increase in students attending private schools between 1995 and 2010 - supply and demand and all that.

BOE inflation calculator reckons the fees today would be £24,456.51, so the VAT is, in reality, largely irrelevant.