Churchlawtonblue
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Long since forgotten what the question was.
I dont think you have if you bothered to respond ? Go on give it a go!
Long since forgotten what the question was.
I know it was a discussion about Starmer not turning up in a Jag or Bentley but not sure what the question you want answering is.I dont think you have if you bothered to respond ? Go on give it a go!
Unless of course you argue that those with a higher IQ would never have voted for Hitler hence the key parts of the Nazi policy include burning books and disposing of all academics and anybody else of intellect who could far easier see through their horrors??Seems a very right wing policy that those who are seen as less intelligent should not be allowed to vote, not that IQ tests are very accurate. I'm sure the little Austrian bloke with a penchant for walking funny and a Charlie Chaplin moustache would approve.
For democracy to work it requires all people to have a voice, regardless of how unpleasant that might be for some people.
Except a low turnout despite there being fewer "safe" seats yesterday than ever.This is kind of like when people try to work out what the Premier League table would be like without VAR though. The fact that it exists and makes a decision affects how the teams approach the rest of the game. Same with this. If we've learned anything from this election, it's that the Lib Dems are far better strategists that the bunch of amateurs that are Reform.
PR would almost certainly increase the turnout, as people are more able to positively vote for what they wanted. So many people don't vote because they only have a realistic choice of two parties they don't like. The Lib Dems and other smaller parties would almost certainly see an increase in votes under PR. Reform is harder to judge, because this time they've arguably acted as a protest for people who are right wing but are fed up with the Tories. We've seen in the past these far right parties ebb and flow based on what's happening at the time.
No I'm not! There you go again twisting the debate to avoid the simple question i posed. I specifically said it was a minor point. Have a read of my initial post if you dont believe me.
We've had lots of good debates over the years. So I think its best to leave it there.
Cheers
I concur fully. He has nothing to do with the choice of vehicle. He has as much choice in that, as I do over when a story my wife tells me, should end.This car thing is a bit odd isn't it?
It's the same type of car that Sunak took to the Palace.
Starmer hasn't run on a platform of only using British made products, or British products first.
Just a bit of token flag shagging that's all.
There isn't a dishonesty or duplicity element here like when Sunak used a Sainsbury's employees car and passed it off as his own.
It's a specialist protection vehicle and the decisions about the car are presumably made by a civil servant or member of the police who deal with security.
I hope this kills this nonsenseI accept it wasn't his choice. But it is now. Do you not accept that it would be better for our PM to be in British made car. If not why has every other PM always been in one.
I think they did a bit of boundary fiddling that may have done him no favours.Won't be the first package he's received. I bet he's had more payments as a losing MP than anyone!