General Election - December 12th, 2019

Who will you vote for in the 2019 General Election?

  • Conservative

    Votes: 160 30.9%
  • Labour

    Votes: 230 44.4%
  • Liberal Democrats

    Votes: 59 11.4%
  • Green Party

    Votes: 13 2.5%
  • Brexit Party

    Votes: 28 5.4%
  • Plaid Cymru/SNP

    Votes: 7 1.4%
  • Other

    Votes: 21 4.1%

  • Total voters
    518
And if he is forced out many of the left will walk away from Labour forever. Its the Labour Party, I want a Socialist leader of the Labour party, I don't want a soft left neo-liberal lite leader, I want a Socialist.

If you don't want to vote Labour then fine, to not do so because you think Corbyn is a liability is just buying the media message and enabling Johnson which is exactly what they want.
I wouldn't mind but he's nowhere near the extreme leftist that some have him down as. Most of his policies are in place in countries all around europe in one form or another. The public have been stitched up with regards to Corbyn, especially 'life-long' Labour voters that 'can't' vote for him.
You might well be right, but it doesn't change the fact that there are millions who won't vote for him that would vote for Labour with a different leader. I doubt that many on the left would walk away. They might not be happy but where else would they go other than obscure parties with absolutely no chance of influencing anything. There would be ten times as many people coming back to Labour than walking away in my opinion.
 
Respect has to be earned and if delivering Brexit was simple then we would have left by now.

It would be simple if there were not so many remain mps in parliament blocking the view of the people who voted them in. It’s really is that simple. The mogg summed it up yesterday.
 
It would be simple if there were not so many remain mps in parliament blocking the view of the people who voted them in. It’s really is that simple. The mogg summed it up yesterday.

Or staunch no deal ERG members blocking a negotiated deal.

Not quite as simple as the mogg suggests.
 
Or staunch no deal ERG members blocking a negotiated deal.

Not quite as simple as the mogg suggests.

It really is - all this no deal nonsense is just scripted bollox introduced by remainers to cloud matters. We were asked stay or leave. We voted leave. So let’s leave. The mps are blocking the result of a democratic referendum no matter which way anyone twists it.
 
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It would be simple if there were not so many remain mps in parliament blocking the view of the people who voted them in. It’s really is that simple. The mogg summed it up yesterday.

I had given up replying to your stupidity but cant let this drop.

The remain MPs are there because it was the will of the people that they were elected to represent them. If they wanted leave MPs they should have voted for leave MPs to represent them. Are you calling voters thick?

As you used the mewling pencil as an example I assume you do think voters are thick, because that unaware selfish **** does I am sure.

I am happy to leave, but if Parliament, the sovereign body of the nation chosen by the people to act on the peoples behalf decides they can not back Johnson and his arrogant narcissistic lying attempts to deceive them who can blame them for fucking him off.

I certainly don't as Parliament must remain sovereign.
 
I had given up replying to your stupidity but cant let this drop.

The remain MPs are there because it was the will of the people that they were elected to represent them. If they wanted leave MPs they should have voted for leave MPs to represent them. Are you calling voters thick?

As you used the mewling pencil as an example I assume you do think voters are thick, because that unaware selfish **** does I am sure.

I am happy to leave, but if Parliament, the sovereign body of the nation chosen by the people to act on the peoples behalf decides they can not back Johnson and his arrogant narcissistic lying attempts to deceive them who can blame them for fucking him off.

I certainly don't as Parliament must remain sovereign.

I have given up replying to your extremism and rudeness. How many constituencies voted leave in the democratic referendum where as now the remain mps in those same areas are blocking that will? Let us have the election and you will find out what the people want for a second time.

I would suggest if you can’t grasp that it is you who is stupid. I have kept it simple for you.
 
Respect has to be earned and if delivering Brexit was simple then we would have left by now.

Correct.
It would be simple if there were not so many remain mps in parliament blocking the view of the people who voted them in. It’s really is that simple. The mogg summed it up yesterday.

"When I use a word," Humpty Dumpty said, in rather a scornful tone, "it means just what I choose it to mean- neither more nor less." "The question is," said Alice, "whether you can make words mean so many different things." "The question is," said Humpty Dumpty, "which is to be master-that's all."

Farage used to be happy with Norway, now Norway is betrayal. Boris promised us cake and eat it, now a no deal Brexit is just a few bumps in the road.

Words matter, and 2016 was not so long ago. Those of us with a memory greater than a goldfish remember what they were, and, more importantly, what they meant.
 
It would be simple if there were not so many remain mps in parliament blocking the view of the people who voted them in. It’s really is that simple. The mogg summed it up yesterday.

No. That’s just the excuse for our failure to develop a workable strategy that had a broad consensus within the country before we started negotiations. The reason why the EU is not riven by infighting between 27 countries is that they did develop a strategy that had consensus. They gave Barnier an agreed mandate which he has stuck too.

The failure of the Tory Govt at a political level has been catastrophic. Johnson is a continuation of the stupidity. Those that support this Govt are culpable in this stupidity.
 

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