General Election - December 12th, 2019

[TheRemainsOfTheDave]

Exactly, when looking at the number of Scots that have voted SNP there isn't a clear mandate for another independence ref.

Approx 68% of Scots voted, less than half of that 68% voted for the SNP.

30 odd percent voted SNP all being told but they got 80 odd percent of the Scottish seats. Shows FPTP is a ridiculous system and that her claims are too. A politician talking out of their arse, who'd have thunk it?

Quoting turnout as a criticism of FPTP is equally valid for PR too. You're still none the wiser as to how the missing would have voted.

 

[Gray]

Same old disingenuous crap from Brexiteers. If you were against career politicians, you would be spitting feathers at Westminster, not the EU.

I have that is why I and many other voted for a Brexit MP. You have your views on Europe and I have mine but over 3 years of pissing about by Parliament (May hugely responsible) has left us in limbo when we should now be out of a Federal Europe with a trade agreement in place. After all that is what the the EC was supposed to be when we voted to remain in 1975.

 

[Gray]

Just woke up.

What possible reason does Corbyn have not to resign immediately?

He is up his own arse?

 

[willipp]

It's bizarre, he's got to go now. It doesn't take much looking at the numbers to realise this was a labour collapse more than anything else that caused it

Said earlier the only reason he has to stay on short term is to influence ands shape the successor so Corbyn mark 2 is the new leader. Whether that’s realistic I have no idea.

 

[meltonblue]

You don't think Corbyn (as a leader) and Brexit are not much bigger issues?

I guess we will find out over the coming weeks the reasons why Labour lost so heavily in traditional areas. It will also be interesting to see if this is a long term shift in voting behaviour or many voters have lent their vote to the Tories.

There's a split geographically as to where peoples votes went. In the predominately remain areas, labours vote went more to other remain parties (and the conservatives went down too). In leave areas, conservatives went up. There tends to be a greater concentration of people in the first group. That's why overall, the conservatives didn't actually get that many more votes but won a significant amount of seats. It really was a collapse of Labour from both sides.

 

[meltonblue]

Said earlier the only reason he has to stay on short term is to influence ands shape the successor so Corbyn mark 2 is the new leader. Whether that’s realistic I have no idea.

If they do that, then they really haven't understood the full reason for the vote loss and they'll be out of power for even longer.

 

[Metal Biker]

Traitorous hahaha.

Corbyn is pro Brexit.

People just believed Tory messaging, in the dominate pro Conservative media, that Labour blocked Brexit...

...when Boris also voted along with some Labour Mps to block Brexit!

Corbyn is pro brexit?

Yeah, WE know that, but the message from the party and him was "i'm 'neutral', and the rest of the Labour party will back remain in an 2nd referendum".

That mixed message simply did not resonate with leave voters, at all.

 

[smudgedj]

O’Brien giving it Corbyn on lbc.

LoL
'How to be wrong in a world gone right'

 

[hgblue]

Corbyn is pro brexit?

Yeah, WE know that, but the message from the party and him was "i'm 'neutral', and the rest of the Labour party will back remain in an 2nd referendum".

That mixed message simply did not resonate with leave voters, at all.

They can't say they weren't warned ;)

 

[meltonblue]

Corbyn is pro brexit?

Yeah, WE know that, but the message from the party and him was "i'm 'neutral', and the rest of the Labour party will back remain in an 2nd referendum".

That mixed message simply did not resonate with leave voters, at all.

Or a lot of remain voters too. That message wasn't enough to compensate for a lot of people not wanting Corbyn.