The good thing for Bercow and any speaker is that they have never had to endure goose screaming at its own arse that is Farage.
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General Election - December 12th, 2019
- Thread starter jay_mcfc
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The good thing for Bercow and any speaker is that they have never had to endure goose screaming at its own arse that is Farage.
Chippy_boy
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What you may not realise my friend is that we ALL have chips and they've ALL been pissed on. That's not vinegar you know.You sound a little rattled has someone pissed on you chips?
In normal times I would agree that the tories would always field a candidate. But these aren’t normal times. It seems that anything goes. It could be that in some northern leave seats where the tories never come close to winning they might not field a candidate, or simply not run any sort of campaign. The tories certainly couldn’t win if the Brexit party picked up 10%+ of the vote. But if Johnson could reduce that by half he might have a chance.What kind of alliance ? No way would any seat not be contested by a conservative candidate, so what do the Brexit party do ? And that's making the assumption 43% would vote on the single issue. Most leave voters I know are either annoyed but voting how they always do, or saying they won't vote there's no point. Granted I'm in Scotland where the BP don't seem to even enter into the conversation.
Apparently Cummings is claiming that the more that Johnson gets battered in the Commons, the more the leavers in his focus groups become determined to vote Tory. But then he would say that.
blueparrot
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As you say not normal so predicting anything with confidence would be foolish. However I’d be very surprised if the Conservative party ordered any constituency not to field a candidate and if any constituency would follow any such order.In normal times I would agree that the tories would always field a candidate. But these aren’t normal times. It seems that anything goes. It could be that in some northern leave seats where the tories never come close to winning they might not field a candidate, or simply not run any sort of campaign. The tories certainly couldn’t win if the Brexit party picked up 10%+ of the vote. But if Johnson could reduce that by half he might have a chance.
Apparently Cummings is claiming that the more that Johnson gets battered in the Commons, the more the leavers in his focus groups become determined to vote Tory. But then he would say that.
Len Rum
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Has Liz really got to give a Queen's speech on October 14 which sets out a legislative programme for a Government with a majority of minus 42, when everyone knows there will be a general election the following month?
At best it could be a little bit embarrassing for Lillibet, at worse somewhat compromising as it will be seen as the monarch reading out the Tory manifesto for the next election.
'ckin hell Jeff.
At best it could be a little bit embarrassing for Lillibet, at worse somewhat compromising as it will be seen as the monarch reading out the Tory manifesto for the next election.
'ckin hell Jeff.
Len Rum
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Nurse!Of course they wouldn't mate, of course. They only have the country's best interests at heart. The lovely nice caring Labour people and those horrible nasty Tories. Nasty, nasty Tories. Lovely kind lovely Labour. Ooooo how we can't wait to take that money of those nasty rich people and give it to the needy downtrodden oh so deserving types. What after all those years of repression and all.
Rascal
El Presidente
Result. Thank-you. So you can stop this nonsense about pretending he's a Remainer.
As to why he's now supporting a Remain position? Well if he had any principles, obviously he woudn't be, would he. It's bloody cynical opportunism again. "How can I inflict as much damage on Boris as possible, irrespective of my own political views".
That he is an unprincipled twat is in itself not so annoying. What is, is the ludicrous notion that he's a man of principle, standing up for what he believes in. Like he did in the last GE, confirming his opposition
He is supporting a remain position because the Labour party is a democratic party and the leader does not get to chose what policy is. It is not like the Tory party.
If the Labour party members support a policy, there is nothing a Labour leader can do but to adhere to the memberships wishes.
He can stand up for principle of course, but he was the overwhelming choice as leader of the party and therefore is at the behest of the party.
Vote Jezza, for a better Britain
The blue phantom
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Surprisingly not everyone is heaping praise on Bercow
Why did Sky news say both sides gave a standing ovation, I think one tory stood up and clapped.
The BBC just mentioned how they all just sat rooted to.their seats.
Banned Tosspot
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You'd vote for Osama Bin Laden if he was Labour leader.He is supporting a remain position because the Labour party is a democratic party and the leader does not get to chose what policy is. It is not like the Tory party.
If the Labour party members support a policy, there is nothing a Labour leader can do but to adhere to the memberships wishes.
He can stand up for principle of course, but he was the overwhelming choice as leader of the party and therefore is at the behest of the party.
Vote Jezza, for a better Britain
gordondaviesmoustache
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Tough on Infidels, tough on the causes of Infidels.You'd vote for Osama Bin Laden if he was Labour leader.