General Election - December 12th, 2019

[cibaman]

And that scenario while bringing about the result I voted for in 2016 will cause severe civil unrest.

Agreed.

 

[The perfect fumble]

If you want a second referendum then let the people put in a government to deliver it!

If the people want a no deal government then let them vote for it!

If the people want a socialist government then let them vote for it!

What is the problem and why do you fear a general election right this second now?

Simple.

Back in the day before the Fixed Term Parliament Act, Prime Ministers got to choose the election date and unless they were running down the clock, like Callaghan, Major and Brown, they always chose a date most favourable for their government. It is now in the hands of Parliament to choose that date, so they're going to choose the most opportune moment for them, to do otherwise makes no sense whatsoever.

Why do you ask questions to which you already know the answer?

 

[Ancient Citizen]

What a doofus!

Very much like 1979? Jim Callaghan? I suppose when you know bugger all it gets a bit confusing.

1979 was the start of the demise of Labour, until Blair saw the light, and managed to win over conservative, and Labour,
floating voters.
Callaghan was trounced in the election, then began a decline for that party, accelerated by Foot, who had similar
ratings as Corbyn is now receiving, and Thatcher cleaned up.
Corbyn has no attraction whatsoever for this section of the electorate, but I suppose you can live in hope, but
getting married for the second time has been likened to a triumph of hope over experience.
You've got the wrong leader pal.

 

[mat]

Labour MP's stayed in the Commons singing the Red Flag. The SNP stayed singing Flower of Scotland. Tories boycotted the return to the commons to close.

No doubt BBC will portray it as Parliament being out of touch with Boris etc...

BBC mention it but with their own take on, rather than showing what happened. Shocker.

 

[mat]

The next leader , maybe Lisa Nandy or Clive Lewis.

But I really do not know.

Starmer would please the establishment. He's actually further left than he let's on.

 

[Gareth Barry Conlon]

Corbyn won't go anywhere, the 0.1% that vote for Labour and call themselves members are more important to them than the 99.9% who might not.

He will face a shit storm if he doesn't. And I'm not sure he wins if challenged, we are long past peak Corbyn and many labour members will be looking to move on. Momentum, as an org are very pro remain, they would not hold together like they did in prior years if its Corbyn v's a moderate remainer. I have no idea who or what Momentum would do but they must have plans for a post Corbyn leader.

 

[Gareth Barry Conlon]

The next leader , maybe Lisa Nandy or Clive Lewis.

But I really do not know.

These two have no chance. The next Labour leader will be solid 100% remain.

 

[The perfect fumble]

1979 was the start of the demise of Labour, until Blair saw the light, and managed to win over conservative, and Labour,
floating voters.
Callaghan was trounced in the election, then began a decline for that party, accelerated by Foot, who had similar
ratings as Corbyn is now receiving, and Thatcher cleaned up.
Corbyn has no attraction whatsoever for this section of the electorate, but I suppose you can live in hope, but
getting married for the second time has been likened to a triumph of hope over experience.
You've got the wrong leader pal.

Falkands War, family silver flogged off, North Sea oil bonanza, Poll Tax, death of John Smith, Major's bastards, ERM, things can only get better, Third Way/One Nation con trick, Iraq War, call me Dave heir to Blair, UKIP, referendum, fuck up.

 

[jay_mcfc]

Corbyn won't go anywhere, the 0.1% that vote for Labour and call themselves members are more important to them than the 99.9% who might not.

If there’s an election which ends without JC being PM then he will have to quit based purely on his age. He can’t wait another 5 years then potentially be PM for 5 years.

Problem for some people is that he will be pm, hopefully by the end of the year.

 

[The Light Was Yellow Sir]

These two have no chance. The next Labour leader will be solid 100% remain.

Benn?