General Election - December 12th, 2019

[cibaman]

No - I think i said the other day that there needs to be 10 - 15 tory rebels to be 100% that you can vote down the government. That covers the various anomalies and the 5 or 6 hardline brexit Lab MPs and others who you just cant trust.

So, if there is a “normal” vote of confidence, where Tories aren’t voting to prevent no deal and Hoey and co aren’t voting to force no deal, could the government win?

In other words, if Labour don’t vote for a General Election now, would they lose that chance for the time being?

 

[Gareth Barry Conlon]

So, if there is a “normal” vote of confidence, where Tories aren’t voting to prevent no deal and Hoey and co aren’t voting to force no deal, could the government win?

In other words, if Labour don’t vote for a General Election now, would they lose that chance for the time being?

I genuinely think Hoey would vote for whatever keeps Boris in power - she is that far down the brexit hole. The other 4 or 5 Lexit Lunnies are anyone's guess.

 

[Len Rum]

If you are going to use that analogy what about Justin Greening and Alister Burt who has all but joined the Lib Dem's (maybe they will be the next to walk across to the Lib Dem benches?) There's plenty more who are giving Boris the bird right now for his hard man tactics.

No, I'm just stating the official calculation, and that now stands at -1.
Greening and Burt still count as Tory MPs who take the Tory whip in the official calculation.

 

[west didsblue]

So, if there is a “normal” vote of confidence, where Tories aren’t voting to prevent no deal and Hoey and co aren’t voting to force no deal, could the government win?

In other words, if Labour don’t vote for a General Election now, would they lose that chance for the time being?

Don't think so. They could vote against an election now and instigate one with a vote of no confidence at a time of their choosing. That would prevent parliament being shut down for an election campaign when it's needed to deal with Brexit.

I think.

 

[aguero93:20]

Don't think so. They could vote against an election now and instigate one with a vote of no confidence at a time of their choosing. That would prevent parliament being shut down for an election campaign when it's needed to deal with Brexit.

I think.

Yep, as long as they keep enough of the Tories onside, which isn't guaranteed if another extension is secured.

 

[Mike D]

Johnson says Tory Brexiters would face deselection if they refused to back any deal he agreed

So adding that to the deselection if they vote for Corbyn's bill tonight basically if you don't agree with Boris you will be deselected a tin pot dictatorship and its only day one. Maybe someone should remind Boris of how he and his ERM rabble opposed May's deal ? The stench of hypocrisy in the chambers right now!

 

[The Light Was Yellow Sir]

This gets better and better....

Rees Mogg said the doctor doesn’t know what he’s talking about. I know which one I’m more likely to believe......

 

[jay_mcfc]

Odds on Hammon going with Boris now he knows he won't be able to stand as a Con in the next election? Typical Tory weasel.

 

[The Light Was Yellow Sir]

It's irrelevant in the context of people on here shouting "Resign Boris". Whether he has a majority of 1 or -1 makes zero difference.

But if he removes the whip from anyone who doesn’t vote with him tonight, he’s bolloxed.

 

[SWP's back]

This gets better and better....

That’s not concerning at all...