General Election - December 12th, 2019

[jimmy blue shoes]

So Remainers, are we voting LibDem or Labour?

It's such a fucking shambles I'm almost past caring!

 

[SWP's back]

Who knows how any forthcoming GE would pan out, but one of the significant obstacles for Labour is that the Remain vote is inevitably going to heavily split between Labour and the Libdems. There are countless millions of devout Remainers who cannot and will not under any circumstances vote for Jeremy Corbyn, and they will in droves vote Libdem.

On the other hand, Boris has the potential to mop up not only the Tory Brexit supporters, but also some Labour Brexit supporters (those not so entrenched in life-long Labour voting habits that they simply can't/won't vote Tory) and critically, Brexit Party voters as well.

If Boris' message to Brexit Party voters is strong and clear enough, I am wondering if a deal will be done with Farage? If not, then the Tory vote could be split as badly as the Labour vote will be. But it's possible Boris and Farage could do a deal with the Brexit party agreeing not to field many (any?) candidates. No such possibility exists for Labour and the Libdems. So the Labour vote will be split badly, the Tory one may or may not be.

That said, Boris will lose most if not all of his Scottish seats, so that has to be factored in as well.

I wonder if the Tories would have the minerals to agree to not post candidates in firm labour seats with high leave percentages to give the BP a free run at getting elected and vice versa by the BP in close Tory/Labour seats.

I genuinely hope it doesn’t happen but I’d be on the phone to that wanker Farage if I was Boris.

 

[aguero93:20]

I'll give you evens at best.

Fuck that, Paddy Power are offering 10/1 against.

 

[MillionMilesAway]

Fuck that, Paddy Power are offering 10/1 against.

Is it wrong that I think they might just do that?

 

[aguero93:20]

Is it wrong that I think they might just do that?

I'd call that one closer to a coinflip.

 

[cibaman]

I wonder if the Tories would have the minerals to agree to not post candidates in firm labour seats with high leave percentages to give the BP a free run at getting elected and vice versa by the BP in close Tory/Labour seats.

I genuinely hope it doesn’t happen but I’d be on the phone to that wanker Farage if I was Boris.

Are there many, if any, seats where the BP could actually get elected? And would Farage agree to such a deal if it meant only standing in seats where Labour has a huge majority?

 

[blue b4 the moon]

Does anyone like Cummings?

Sounds like a line from a Carry On film.

 

[jay_mcfc]

I wonder if the Tories would have the minerals to agree to not post candidates in firm labour seats with high leave percentages to give the BP a free run at getting elected and vice versa by the BP in close Tory/Labour seats.

I genuinely hope it doesn’t happen but I’d be on the phone to that wanker Farage if I was Boris.

This is nailed on to happen. There’s no way the Cons are getting a majority, even with the DUP. Nigel is Boris’ one and only hope. Just have to hope that there are enough sensible leave voters in northern towns that realize a no deal Brexit with Nige and Bozo would be a complete disaster for them.

 

[cibaman]

I don't see either Boris or Jeremy achieving an overall majority. I predict the Lib Dems and SNP will play a major part in the election.

I am sure Corbyn would like to have a deal with the SNP that's probably his best option?

Brexit party won't have enough to form a deal with Boris.

The Lib Dems are more than likely to be the kingmakers here because they will take seats off the Tories who will be split by the Brexit party.

It’s true that the Lib Dem’s will not take many seats off of Labour. But in Tory/ Labour marginals they might take enough votes to let the tories in. Rather as the SDP did in 1983

 

[SWP's back]

Are there many, if any, seats where the BP could actually get elected? And would Farage agree to such a deal if it meant only standing in seats where Labour has a huge majority?

I’d imagine there are a large number yes. This election is largely going to be cast as a second referendum.

If Farage only cares about Brexit and that would be the best way to achieve it as part of a coalition government, why wouldn’t he?