General Election - December 12th, 2019

[M18CTID]

An issue in the sense that there is no political party in the world can say that doesn't have its racists because they cannot control every single person thinks or does. Its how the party deals with them that matters

And I think it's fair to say that so far Corbyn hasn't dealt with it very well

 

[Mike D]

‘Some loud bloke who stunk of booze yelling at us’: Dominic Cummings faces backlash from all sides as Boris Johnson government descends into chaos

Oh dear looks like Cummings got a little bit worse for wear last night and went and had a pop at Corbyn https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...-commons-no-deal-downing-street-a9091181.html

 

[Gareth Barry Conlon]

It seems that there has been a surge in young people signing up to vote in the coming GE. Great to see, the skewed age demographic of voters has long been an issue and our social security system is skewed as a result with years and years of sops to elderly voters - tripe lock pension anyone? If it was up to me I'd have voting at 16 and make it mandatory that schools offer to assist leavers in signing up.

More than 100,000 people have applied to register to vote in the past 48 hours, with young people making up the bulk of the surge.

On Monday, 52,408 applications were submitted, according to government figures, followed by 64,485 on Tuesday.
https://www.theguardian.com/politic...apply-register-vote-youth-uk-general-election

 

[SWP's back]

This makes no sense, I literally have no idea what this means.

Seems you’re on your own again.

Maybe read it back slowly, have a look at the narrative of the thread and try your best to work it out.

 

[AlexWilliamsGloves]

As were some posters on here I suspect.

aw, go on....spill???? Who?

 

[Mike D]

And I think it's fair to say that so far Corbyn hasn't dealt with it very well

Some might say but that's down to personal opinion but when you compare it how islamophobia has been handled in the tory party the difference is like night and day. But I guess that comes with the territory of being to the left you have to be squeaky clean on any form or prejustice.

 

[M18CTID]

Some might say but that's down to personal opinion but when you compare it how islamophobia has been handled in the tory party the difference is like night and day. But I guess that comes with the territory of being to the left you have to be squeaky clean on any form or prejustice.

Can you give me a detailed analysis as to the differences between Corbyn's handling of anti-semitism in his own party and the handling of Islamophobia in the Conservative party? Where has Corbyn excelled in dealing with the AS issue compared to the Tories and their handling of Islamophobia?

 

[Gareth Barry Conlon]

The price for a Brexit/Tory pact is the Tories committing to a no deal Brexit and not attempting to leave with a deal. At that point there is no difference between the two parties so where does that leave the 30% or so of Tory voters who are Remainers? Or Scottish Tories who support the Union something the Brexit Party would ditch in heartbeat? Come to think of it what is in this for the Tories? What do they get out of being tied to a single issue party?

Also a GE may start out about Brexit but will end up on austerity, NHS, social care and all the other issues. The last GE was called to give May a Brexit mandate. Labour talked about everything but Brexit. Single issue elections always get sidetracked into other issues.

Tories, with Farage poking away at them, have been slowly backing themselves in to a corner for years. They have morphed into UKIP.

 

[The perfect fumble]

Seems you’re on your own again.

Maybe read it back slowly, have a look at the narrative of the thread and try your best to work it out.

I'll not bother eh? Save all that time posting past each other.

 

[Gareth Barry Conlon]

I think they tried to be all things to all people and got it wrong.

Corbyn now realises this and he won’t get it wrong again.

My concern is the remain vote being split between Labour and the Lib Dems.

Agree - my MP is TIG/change. If Labour, Lib Dems and greens all stand against her then that is a potential 4 way split for the remain vote. That can not work - as a minimum I expect TIG/change, Lib dems and greens to form a pact. If they don't I will be raging.

Corbyn has missed the boat on remain but he has at least ensured that he still has a decent chance in some of the hard core leave seats. Peterborogh was the kind of result he has been playing for and he beat the BXP there when that is exactly the kind of seat they would expect to win. I think Labour will do ok at retaining there seats, tories won't.