General Election June 8th

Who will you vote for at the General Election?

  • Conservatives

    Votes: 189 28.8%

  • Labour

    Votes: 366 55.8%

  • Liberal Democrats

    Votes: 37 5.6%

  • SNP

    Votes: 8 1.2%

  • UKIP

    Votes: 23 3.5%

  • Other

    Votes: 33 5.0%
  • Total voters
    656
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gordondaviesmoustache said:
Ordinarily, I'm a hugely positive person, and I've engaged with politics since before I could vote, but it was with a heavy heart that I just cast my vote for the Lib Dems.

This is partly because of the political system which we operate in this country means my vote, in a constituency where 75% of the vote at the last election was for Labour, was a wasted one. However, my disposition is mainly because of the state of British politics today. The standard of politician, compared to a generation ago, on all sides, is truly shocking. I put this principally down to the proliferation of career politicians in the last generation or so.

Even though I'm slightly right of centre on certain issues, due to their lack of social liberalism I don't think I could ever vote Tory, but I did have a wobble around a week ago and have been vacillating between Labour and the Lib Dems in the last few days, but in the final analysis I couldn't bring myself to vote for a party who I believe would, in all likelihood, bring economic turmoil upon this country, even though I agree with some of their more significant policies, such as on renationalisation of certain industries.

I believe that as well as being a threat to our future prosperity, Brexit also represents a huge opportunity, but one I fear that our political classes are pitifully ill-equipped to tackle. I expect the outcome will be between 80 to 100 seat majority for the Tories (down from my predictions of a fortnight ago) and we'll be left with a dishonest, spineless **** to map out this country's progress for the next half a century or so, assuming she clings on - and if she doesn't, fuck knows who or what will replace her, another manifest shortcoming in our political system.

All very depressing.
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Great post and one I pretty much wholeheartedly concur with. Add me to the Lib-Dem list.
 
M18CTID said:
I was going to vote Conservative but pretty sure I won't now as I think they've had a poor campaign. Trouble is, there's not a cat in hell's chance that I'm voting for the Corbyn-Abbott double act which means for the second election in a row I'm going to be a fence-sitting liberal. This despite me being totally against the Lib Dem's promise of a second EU referendum.
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Abbott? You should keep up man. Shrs gone
 
gordondaviesmoustache said:
nal analysis I couldn't bring myself to vote for a party who I believe would, in all likelihood, bring economic turmoil upon this country, even though I agree with some of their more significant policies, such as on renationalisation of certain industries.
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But they're not though. You and everybody else have fell into the logical trap that politics places on people.

Labour are not going to "wreck the economy".

The Tories aren't going to "starve the poor".

This is PR nonsense that has no bearing on reality. It presumes that neither party has any rational actors in it and instead are a caricature of themselves. A vastly over simplified description able to be shortened into a useful soundbite.

I voted Labour because I believe in more of Labour policies than Tory and as a member, I want us to have a strong opposition for the next leader.

But if the Tories get in then that's fine. They are a bunch of generally rational people who want to do what they think is best for the country. We're not going to be back to the days of workhouse and Oliver Twist.

The point is that these are stereotypes about political parties reinforced by the gutter press and they never come true. Labour never sinks the economy. The Tories never kill off the poor. It's a complete myth akin to transfer hype where a new player is never as good or bad as people expected.

These stereotypes are part of the irrationality of politics and they're both unhelpful and really quite irritating. The end is never nigh. People lie to you in order to create emotion and make you do what they want.
 
Damocles said:
But they're not though. You and everybody else have fell into the logical trap that politics places on people.

Labour are not going to "wreck the economy".

The Tories aren't going to "starve the poor".

This is PR nonsense that has no bearing on reality. It presumes that neither party has any rational actors in it and instead are a caricature of themselves. A vastly over simplified description able to be shortened into a useful soundbite.

I voted Labour because I believe in more of Labour policies than Tory and as a member, I want us to have a strong opposition for the next leader.

But if the Tories get in then that's fine. They are a bunch of generally rational people who want to do what they think is best for the country. We're not going to be back to the days of workhouse and Oliver Twist.

The point is that these are stereotypes about political parties reinforced by the gutter press and they never come true. Labour never sinks the economy. The Tories never kill off the poor. It's a complete myth akin to transfer hype where a new player is never as good or bad as people expected.

These stereotypes are part of the irrationality of politics and they're both unhelpful and really quite irritating. The end is never nigh. People lie to you in order to create emotion and make you do what they want.
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Er...four thousand deaths of people having their benefits stopped after being declared fit to work is what could be described as a "kill off" don't you think?
 
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