General UFC thread

What did everyone make of the fights this weekend? I thought the judging was a shambles, all over the place. There was one specific judge who fucked up scores on 3 different scorecards, he had the JJ vs Dom fight as 39-36! Contrary to belief, UFC has no power of who the judges are as they are picked by the commission, but we have seen in boxing that promoters are free to get in the ear of judges. However, i do think it's more to do with the judges having no fucking idea what's happening in front of their eyes and that the rules are all wrong for this sport, they need to be built from the foundation up, instead of re-using the boxing rules.

Re the main event, tbh i thought Dom did enough in the first 3 rounds to take the fight but i don't think it was a robbery. I thought he cracked JJ a few times and had him in trouble, you could see at the end of the fight that Jon knew he might have gotten away with one and he himself said he only thought he won it due to the takedowns. Now this is something that really fucks me off, he attempted a few takedowns and Dom showed amazing defence, he only really got taken down when he tired in in the championship rounds. Forward pressure is also used in judging, which is fair enough, but so is cage management IMO and Reyes moved around really well out of danger as well as having JJ backing up and even running back into position on a number of occasions. Like i say, not a robbery, but IMO it was the incorrect decision.

Valentina is such a beast, she is head and shoulders above everyone in her weight class and i think that they might as well not bother TBH. The only fight that makes sense to me is the Nunez fight, i thought she won both of the fights she had with Nunez and its the fight that needs to be made. A good way to set it up would be for Nunez to cut weight (if she can) and then try and go for the 3rd belt and become a legit triple weight champ, IMO that would be a great way for her to retire from the sport.

Didn't think the card itself was great. Best fight for me was Valentina's total destruction of Chookagian. Just took her apparent technically and physically. Her speed and read were immense! But, I love that girl anyway, so I could just be biased in my thinking!

I'm not sure the UFC will allow a title fight at catchweight.

I can't see that happening, but we'll see.
 
Didn't think the card itself was great. Best fight for me was Valentina's total destruction of Chookagian. Just took her apparent technically and physically. Her speed and read were immense! But, I love that girl anyway, so I could just be biased in my thinking!

I'm not sure the UFC will allow a title fight at catchweight.

I can't see that happening, but we'll see.
Valentina is just so much better than anyone in her division, i think only Nunez matches up with her.

I don't want it at a catchweight, if Nunez can come down to Valentina's weight class that would be perfect. Not sure she can though, shes huge.

Did you hear the JRE with Rashad? They were discussing the JJ Vs Reyes fight and Rogan's take on it was so fucking stupid. He said that if the fight didn't have an end then JJ would have clearly won, he also said that if you compare it to a school ground fight (which he acknowledged was stupid, but still continued with it) then the winner of the fight is whoever is taken off the other guy and is winning at that point. He said if you got beaten down for 2 rounds then you should lose, completely ignoring the fact that Reyes didn't get beaten down at any point and that he won the first 2 rounds and possibly the 3rd. When he let's his bias control his thoughts, it fuck's up his arguments and it's clear in this case.
 
Valentina is just so much better than anyone in her division, i think only Nunez matches up with her.

I don't want it at a catchweight, if Nunez can come down to Valentina's weight class that would be perfect. Not sure she can though, shes huge.

Did you hear the JRE with Rashad? They were discussing the JJ Vs Reyes fight and Rogan's take on it was so fucking stupid. He said that if the fight didn't have an end then JJ would have clearly won, he also said that if you compare it to a school ground fight (which he acknowledged was stupid, but still continued with it) then the winner of the fight is whoever is taken off the other guy and is winning at that point. He said if you got beaten down for 2 rounds then you should lose, completely ignoring the fact that Reyes didn't get beaten down at any point and that he won the first 2 rounds and possibly the 3rd. When he let's his bias control his thoughts, it fuck's up his arguments and it's clear in this case.

Well, Nunez ain't ever coming down, so that's that over and done with.

Shame.

I haven't listened to the JRE for a short while, so I'll look out for it over the weekend.
 
Anyone else wasching UFC 248, been pretty good so far.

The womens main event was a great watch. The mens not so much.

JJ had a right alien head at the end of the fight. It also looked like she’d been working on her chest muscles.
 
That Romero fight was the worst thing I've ever seen. Some guy was having a wank next to me at the pub saying I will be at the edge of my seat watching. He's right, I nearly fell off my stool falling asleep. What a load of old wank
 
All UFC fights to go ahead sans fans with some changing back to the performance institute in LV.
Gonna be interesting as Nevada has banned all combat sports until late March.

Just rebook tony vs khabib to international waters please.
 
The fights this weekend were fucking weird, no crowd so it was like those TUF events where you can hear the corners and fighters. Bit sad for the Maia fight, but he's in his 40s now so it's to be expected.
 
Dana White banking on UFC 249 being the most watched/ lucrative event ever because COVID-19...


How is this still happening during the current situation ?
I thought all sporting events were cancelled !
Surely all those medical professionals that will have to be present would be better off working in hospitals.
 
UFC cancelled for foreseeable future.

For all his talk Dana realized he has bosses and they made him back down.
What a shit show its become in this last week.
Don't know why the execs didn't nip it at the bud sooner.
Why announce a new card just over a week out?
It's made Dana look pretty stupid

On the plus side hopefully this means we get tony vs khabib sooner.
Plus more stacked cards.
 
He's a tool, is Dana.

Last thing he thought about was the fighters. He wanted the money and the glory. Even Rogan was like 'WTF!'!

Anyway, here's Dana chewing his foot...



LOL, what a dick!


I wouldn’t say I know him but I’ve met him and had a beer with him. He’s a really great guy. But he’s as hardline as they come and this was a very republican approach and it was dumb.
 
Who watched the fights then? Felt a bit like a the ultimate fighter show where they have no audience and you can just hear everything.

Werdum finally came back and he reminded me of how he was in Pride days and early in UFC when he got KTFO'd by Junior. He looked overweight, slow and didn't look like he wanted to be there, if he can't put in the work and get back to where he was then he needs to retire.

Pettis vs Cowboy was a decent fight for two fighters that i think are on the way down, i do think Pettis won it quite comfortably but i'd like to see Cowboy retire now. I think he's said he's staying around but the UFC should offer him something on the commentary side and force him to retire, he will never do it on his own as hes an adrenaline junkie.

Ngannou is fucking scary man, i thought this could be a problem fight for him but he's got so much trust in KTFO'ing people he just goes in there head first. If an elite striker can evade his strikes and wait for their moment he could be in trouble, there is zero defence when he's throwing, but you are risking getting sent to another dimension like Jairzinho was. On the other side i think if you follow the gameplan Stipe set out and grind him out, you'll be able to take him out.

Cejudo vs Cruz was a bullshit call, the knee was nice but it caught Cruz more off balance than hurting him. But when you get an Olympic wrestler over you in turtle position its not a fucking easy call to get up, he was still moving and looking for a way out of the position, shit call. Cejudo has retired now, fair fucks hes done everything. I would like to see that fight again but i really wanted to see the Mighty Mouse trilogy, i thought he lost the rematch as well tbh.

Now the main event did not go at all like i thought it would, holy shit what a fight! I expected Gaethje to gas, and tbh into the second round i thought he was in big trouble. But he managed to listen to his corner and dialled down on his combinations a tiny bit which made a world of difference. Ferguson's face after the fight was how he makes everyone else look, man has he got a fucking chin on him. However you have to feel for him, he trained so long for Khabib and Gaethje is a completely different style of fighter. They won't do it, but i think Ferguson deserves another shot at.
 
Who watched the fights then? Felt a bit like a the ultimate fighter show where they have no audience and you can just hear everything.

I felt this was a HUGE improvement in experience! I love it like this, but know it won't stay!

Werdum finally came back and he reminded me of how he was in Pride days and early in UFC when he got KTFO'd by Junior. He looked overweight, slow and didn't look like he wanted to be there, if he can't put in the work and get back to where he was then he needs to retire.

Agreed about his time being done.

I wasn't impressed. Quite bored, actually.

Pettis vs Cowboy was a decent fight for two fighters that i think are on the way down, i do think Pettis won it quite comfortably but i'd like to see Cowboy retire now. I think he's said he's staying around but the UFC should offer him something on the commentary side and force him to retire, he will never do it on his own as hes an adrenaline junkie.

Yeah, Cerrone's fought too many time over a short distance. Saying that, I don't agree with the decision.

I thought they were virtually even with the strikes, but cerrone's take-downs gave him the edge.

Ngannou is fucking scary man, i thought this could be a problem fight for him but he's got so much trust in KTFO'ing people he just goes in there head first. If an elite striker can evade his strikes and wait for their moment he could be in trouble, there is zero defence when he's throwing, but you are risking getting sent to another dimension like Jairzinho was. On the other side i think if you follow the gameplan Stipe set out and grind him out, you'll be able to take him out.

So, let me start with the Stipe thing. As I said way back then, that fight was a learning curve. Something he needed and adding to his fight IQ. he's dealt with wrestlers, since then and has shook them off.

As for Jarzinho, I knew he getting taken out. Just knew it but, obviously, not as quick as that!

Ngannou is the next champ and will probably be undefeated from then on. But, I did not like the casual attitude he had at the start of the fight. Highly disrespectful.

Cejudo vs Cruz was a bullshit call, the knee was nice but it caught Cruz more off balance than hurting him. But when you get an Olympic wrestler over you in turtle position its not a fucking easy call to get up, he was still moving and looking for a way out of the position, shit call. Cejudo has retired now, fair fucks hes done everything. I would like to see that fight again but i really wanted to see the Mighty Mouse trilogy, i thought he lost the rematch as well tbh.

It's semantics about the stoppage. I thought it was the right call. I've seen numerous fighters start getting up only to be caught with a shot that puts them out because the ref 'gave them a chance'.

I thought it was a good call by Dean.

Now the main event did not go at all like i thought it would, holy shit what a fight! I expected Gaethje to gas, and tbh into the second round i thought he was in big trouble. But he managed to listen to his corner and dialled down on his combinations a tiny bit which made a world of difference. Ferguson's face after the fight was how he makes everyone else look, man has he got a fucking chin on him. However you have to feel for him, he trained so long for Khabib and Gaethje is a completely different style of fighter. They won't do it, but i think Ferguson deserves another shot at.

I thought the main event would be a war. Little did I expect it to be so one sided! This was like role reversal in fighting IQ. I've never really been impressed by Gaethje's rock 'em-sock 'em fight style where Ferguson was king.

He grew the fuck up in UFC 249. He used his brain and had to be told about how he lost the last time in that position. Laser guided left shots, moving his head, picking the shots and pacing himself, finally. I'm a fan, at last!

He'll take Khabib out. Of that, I'm sure.

Let's hope he continue to grow his fight IQ. He has all the right tools to reign for a long time!
 
I felt this was a HUGE improvement in experience! I love it like this, but know it won't stay!



Agreed about his time being done.

I wasn't impressed. Quite bored, actually.



Yeah, Cerrone's fought too many time over a short distance. Saying that, I don't agree with the decision.

I thought they were virtually even with the strikes, but cerrone's take-downs gave him the edge.



So, let me start with the Stipe thing. As I said way back then, that fight was a learning curve. Something he needed and adding to his fight IQ. he's dealt with wrestlers, since then and has shook them off.

As for Jarzinho, I knew he getting taken out. Just knew it but, obviously, not as quick as that!

Ngannou is the next champ and will probably be undefeated from then on. But, I did not like the casual attitude he had at the start of the fight. Highly disrespectful.



It's semantics about the stoppage. I thought it was the right call. I've seen numerous fighters start getting up only to be caught with a shot that puts them out because the ref 'gave them a chance'.

I thought it was a good call by Dean.



I thought the main event would be a war. Little did I expect it to be so one sided! This was like role reversal in fighting IQ. I've never really been impressed by Gaethje's rock 'em-sock 'em fight style where Ferguson was king.

He grew the fuck up in UFC 249. He used his brain and had to be told about how he lost the last time in that position. Laser guided left shots, moving his head, picking the shots and pacing himself, finally. I'm a fan, at last!

He'll take Khabib out. Of that, I'm sure.

Let's hope he continue to grow his fight IQ. He has all the right tools to reign for a long time!

I just watched all the highlights earlier, completely forgot it was on. Echo your thoughts. There were some fucking violent finishes, lol, and blood galore.
 
Didn't mind not having any crowd.
Kind of gave me a new respect as to just how hard they punch. In the tony fight, just how loud the sounds were when they were connecting was crazy.
At his age, and a beating like that, could very well be a career changing fight.

Would still like to see khabib tony though as styles make fights.
 

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