George Floyd murder / Derek Chauvin guilty of murder

[Bigga]

The bodycam is out now,he got out of the car and was standing taking a breathalyzer test,there was a bit missing because then it then jumps to him being against the car and they are trying to handcuff him and the scuffle,if it was positive would we know by now ?

Looks like the officer is going to get done

Absolutely going to get done. The Chief wouldn't have resigned otherwise!

They would have seen all the footage before any action or releasing.

 

[Sir peace frog]

Can't make out what the white girl is doing,
Been looking hard, it looks like she's taking paper maybe money out,I can't see her with any fire, maybe it's my eyes:)

I've seen another video now and it shows people to the side of the building throw explosive ( is there another type) fire works into the place

 

[kaz7]

Absolutely going to get done. The Chief wouldn't have resigned otherwise!

They would have seen all the footage before any action or releasing.

Do the cops kill white men over there at the same rate?

 

[Bigga]

Do the cops kill white men over there at the same rate?

You will get the argument of 'more so', but that will be from people not taking into account percentage of demographic in population.

 

[Bigga]

Breonna Taylor update...

 

[ChicagoBlue]

Any cop being shot at, even with a taser, has the lawful ability to neutralize the attacker. I’m honestly surprised he wasn’t shot in the scuffle when he tried to get away.

Fighting with a police officer, who is wearing a deadly weapon, is stupidity in all its glory. The Officer HAS TO PROTECT THE WEAPON, or it is likely to be used against him. An officer who is being shot by a taser understands that being neutralized in almost certain death. “Anyone who would shoot a cop with a taser will shoot him with a gun” has to be the bottom line.

On George Floyd...we have seen him escorted out of his car to the wall. We have seen him being knelt on. What we haven’t seen is how he ended up in the floor by the side of the Police SUV when they were trying to get him in the back seat. Now, don’t ignore the fact that he is 6’5” tall and an ex-athlete, or the fact that two of the officers ran around to the curbside of the vehicle to help pull him into the SUV.

Floyd was no innocent party to what ensued up to that point. The Police were called because the shopkeeper said he was trying to pass a fake $20 bill. (BTW, that’s a Federal Offence, and a Secret Service matter, So it was going to go waaaay up the chain if it was true). Until he RESISTED in being put into the Police SUV, this was a no-brainer, “you’ve been copped, let’s sort this out downtown” matter. Once he resisted, and FOIR OFFICERS couldn’t get him into the SUV, they subdued him in the ground while they waited for back-up. Think about that, FOUR POLICE OFFICERS, two of whom were young, athletic rookies, couldn’t get one man into an SUV!!!

Now, the knee in the neck and ignoring the plea that he couldn’t breathe? That is abuse leading to death and the officers involved should be punished to the full extent of the law. I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH THAT!

However, where I do have a problem is the “blackwashing” (if I can use that term in this instance) of the FACTS of what led up to Mr Floyd being in the ground in the first place.

Indeed, he has been eulogized as a model citizen doing God’s work in the community (since coming out of prison for other offenses, including armed robbery!), but NO-ONE can say, with a straight face, that he wasn’t being sought for committing a federal offence, that everything was being done properly and safely, and that normal procedures were going long just fine until he began fighting being placed in the Police SUV.

When we see the video of the street side of the SUV when they were trying to put him in the vehicle, I think we might gain a much greater understanding of what the officers encountered and Mr Floyd’s actions in that regard.

Again, the knee on the neck, face ground into the asphalt, another officer kneeling in his back, etc, etc, etc...ALL UNNECESSARY POLICE BRUTALITY LEADING TO DEATH, and should be prosecuted as such.

No angels involved in this event, from A to Z. Sadly, an alleged criminal died because another one of them was a brutal racist with a badge, and he killed him.

I am a HUGE PROPONENT of de-escalation. That is not as easy in America as it sounds, because no-one knows who has a gun and who doesn’t. All the talking in the world means nothing if the person has a deadly weapon hidden on them, and is ready to use it, or is holding one and raises it.

I prefer police to neutralize that threat before it kills them...those are the rules!

“Normal” people don’t threaten the police, don’t fight with the police, don’t get themselves into these kinds of situations. COMPLY and let the system work, because non-compliance is a losing strategy, sometimes leading to death.

Preparing for incoming...

 

[Kinkladze 1]

Any cop being shot at, even with a taser, has the lawful ability to neutralize the attacker. I’m honestly surprised he wasn’t shot in the scuffle when he tried to get away.

Fighting with a police officer, who is wearing a deadly weapon, is stupidity in all its glory. The Officer HAS TO PROTECT THE WEAPON, or it is likely to be used against him. An officer who is being shot by a taser understands that being neutralized in almost certain death. “Anyone who would shoot a cop with a taser will shoot him with a gun” has to be the bottom line.

On George Floyd...we have seen him escorted out of his car to the wall. We have seen him being knelt on. What we haven’t seen is how he ended up in the floor by the side of the Police SUV when they were trying to get him in the back seat. Now, don’t ignore the fact that he is 6’5” tall and an ex-athlete, or the fact that two of the officers ran around to the curbside of the vehicle to help pull him into the SUV.

Floyd was no innocent party to what ensued up to that point. The Police were called because the shopkeeper said he was trying to pass a fake $20 bill. (BTW, that’s a Federal Offence, and a Secret Service matter, So it was going to go waaaay up the chain if it was true). Until he RESISTED in being put into the Police SUV, this was a no-brainer, “you’ve been copped, let’s sort this out downtown” matter. Once he resisted, and FOIR OFFICERS couldn’t get him into the SUV, they subdued him in the ground while they waited for back-up. Think about that, FOUR POLICE OFFICERS, two of whom were young, athletic rookies, couldn’t get one man into an SUV!!!

Now, the knee in the neck and ignoring the plea that he couldn’t breathe? That is abuse leading to death and the officers involved should be punished to the full extent of the law. I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH THAT!

However, where I do have a problem is the “blackwashing” (if I can use that term in this instance) of the FACTS of what led up to Mr Floyd being in the ground in the first place.

Indeed, he has been eulogized as a model citizen doing God’s work in the community (since coming out of prison for other offenses, including armed robbery!), but NO-ONE can say, with a straight face, that he wasn’t being sought for committing a federal offence, that everything was being done properly and safely, and that normal procedures were going long just fine until he began fighting being placed in the Police SUV.

When we see the video of the street side of the SUV when they were trying to put him in the vehicle, I think we might gain a much greater understanding of what the officers encountered and Mr Floyd’s actions in that regard.

Again, the knee on the neck, face ground into the asphalt, another officer kneeling in his back, etc, etc, etc...ALL UNNECESSARY POLICE BRUTALITY LEADING TO DEATH, and should be prosecuted as such.

No angels involved in this event, from A to Z. Sadly, an alleged criminal died because another one of them was a brutal racist with a badge, and he killed him.

I am a HUGE PROPONENT of de-escalation. That is not as easy in America as it sounds, because no-one knows who has a gun and who doesn’t. All the talking in the world means nothing if the person has a deadly weapon hidden on them, and is ready to use it, or is holding one and raises it.

I prefer police to neutralize that threat before it kills them...those are the rules!

“Normal” people don’t threaten the police, don’t fight with the police, don’t get themselves into these kinds of situations. COMPLY and let the system work, because non-compliance is a losing strategy, sometimes leading to death.

Preparing for incoming...

Any cop being shot at, even with a taser, has the lawful ability to neutralize the attacker. I’m honestly surprised he wasn’t shot in the scuffle when he tried to get away.

Fighting with a police officer, who is wearing a deadly weapon, is stupidity in all its glory. The Officer HAS TO PROTECT THE WEAPON, or it is likely to be used against him. An officer who is being shot by a taser understands that being neutralized in almost certain death. “Anyone who would shoot a cop with a taser will shoot him with a gun” has to be the bottom line.

On George Floyd...we have seen him escorted out of his car to the wall. We have seen him being knelt on. What we haven’t seen is how he ended up in the floor by the side of the Police SUV when they were trying to get him in the back seat. Now, don’t ignore the fact that he is 6’5” tall and an ex-athlete, or the fact that two of the officers ran around to the curbside of the vehicle to help pull him into the SUV.

Floyd was no innocent party to what ensued up to that point. The Police were called because the shopkeeper said he was trying to pass a fake $20 bill. (BTW, that’s a Federal Offence, and a Secret Service matter, So it was going to go waaaay up the chain if it was true). Until he RESISTED in being put into the Police SUV, this was a no-brainer, “you’ve been copped, let’s sort this out downtown” matter. Once he resisted, and FOIR OFFICERS couldn’t get him into the SUV, they subdued him in the ground while they waited for back-up. Think about that, FOUR POLICE OFFICERS, two of whom were young, athletic rookies, couldn’t get one man into an SUV!!!

Now, the knee in the neck and ignoring the plea that he couldn’t breathe? That is abuse leading to death and the officers involved should be punished to the full extent of the law. I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH THAT!

However, where I do have a problem is the “blackwashing” (if I can use that term in this instance) of the FACTS of what led up to Mr Floyd being in the ground in the first place.

Indeed, he has been eulogized as a model citizen doing God’s work in the community (since coming out of prison for other offenses, including armed robbery!), but NO-ONE can say, with a straight face, that he wasn’t being sought for committing a federal offence, that everything was being done properly and safely, and that normal procedures were going long just fine until he began fighting being placed in the Police SUV.

When we see the video of the street side of the SUV when they were trying to put him in the vehicle, I think we might gain a much greater understanding of what the officers encountered and Mr Floyd’s actions in that regard.

Again, the knee on the neck, face ground into the asphalt, another officer kneeling in his back, etc, etc, etc...ALL UNNECESSARY POLICE BRUTALITY LEADING TO DEATH, and should be prosecuted as such.

No angels involved in this event, from A to Z. Sadly, an alleged criminal died because another one of them was a brutal racist with a badge, and he killed him.

I am a HUGE PROPONENT of de-escalation. That is not as easy in America as it sounds, because no-one knows who has a gun and who doesn’t. All the talking in the world means nothing if the person has a deadly weapon hidden on them, and is ready to use it, or is holding one and raises it.

I prefer police to neutralize that threat before it kills them...those are the rules!

“Normal” people don’t threaten the police, don’t fight with the police, don’t get themselves into these kinds of situations. COMPLY and let the system work, because non-compliance is a losing strategy, sometimes leading to death.

Preparing for incoming...

oh no mate. You’ve only gone and spoken the truth. The yoghurts won’t like that!

 

[Blue Mist]

@ChicagoBlue and @Kinkladze Perhaps I am a carton of Ski but...…………..

what threat is someone who is running away from you ?

 

[bluemcr]

 

[MCFC1993]

Any cop being shot at, even with a taser, has the lawful ability to neutralize the attacker. I’m honestly surprised he wasn’t shot in the scuffle when he tried to get away.

Fighting with a police officer, who is wearing a deadly weapon, is stupidity in all its glory. The Officer HAS TO PROTECT THE WEAPON, or it is likely to be used against him. An officer who is being shot by a taser understands that being neutralized in almost certain death. “Anyone who would shoot a cop with a taser will shoot him with a gun” has to be the bottom line.

On George Floyd...we have seen him escorted out of his car to the wall. We have seen him being knelt on. What we haven’t seen is how he ended up in the floor by the side of the Police SUV when they were trying to get him in the back seat. Now, don’t ignore the fact that he is 6’5” tall and an ex-athlete, or the fact that two of the officers ran around to the curbside of the vehicle to help pull him into the SUV.

Floyd was no innocent party to what ensued up to that point. The Police were called because the shopkeeper said he was trying to pass a fake $20 bill. (BTW, that’s a Federal Offence, and a Secret Service matter, So it was going to go waaaay up the chain if it was true). Until he RESISTED in being put into the Police SUV, this was a no-brainer, “you’ve been copped, let’s sort this out downtown” matter. Once he resisted, and FOIR OFFICERS couldn’t get him into the SUV, they subdued him in the ground while they waited for back-up. Think about that, FOUR POLICE OFFICERS, two of whom were young, athletic rookies, couldn’t get one man into an SUV!!!

Now, the knee in the neck and ignoring the plea that he couldn’t breathe? That is abuse leading to death and the officers involved should be punished to the full extent of the law. I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH THAT!

However, where I do have a problem is the “blackwashing” (if I can use that term in this instance) of the FACTS of what led up to Mr Floyd being in the ground in the first place.

Indeed, he has been eulogized as a model citizen doing God’s work in the community (since coming out of prison for other offenses, including armed robbery!), but NO-ONE can say, with a straight face, that he wasn’t being sought for committing a federal offence, that everything was being done properly and safely, and that normal procedures were going long just fine until he began fighting being placed in the Police SUV.

When we see the video of the street side of the SUV when they were trying to put him in the vehicle, I think we might gain a much greater understanding of what the officers encountered and Mr Floyd’s actions in that regard.

Again, the knee on the neck, face ground into the asphalt, another officer kneeling in his back, etc, etc, etc...ALL UNNECESSARY POLICE BRUTALITY LEADING TO DEATH, and should be prosecuted as such.

No angels involved in this event, from A to Z. Sadly, an alleged criminal died because another one of them was a brutal racist with a badge, and he killed him.

I am a HUGE PROPONENT of de-escalation. That is not as easy in America as it sounds, because no-one knows who has a gun and who doesn’t. All the talking in the world means nothing if the person has a deadly weapon hidden on them, and is ready to use it, or is holding one and raises it.

I prefer police to neutralize that threat before it kills them...those are the rules!

“Normal” people don’t threaten the police, don’t fight with the police, don’t get themselves into these kinds of situations. COMPLY and let the system work, because non-compliance is a losing strategy, sometimes leading to death.

Preparing for incoming...

There in lies the problem with law enforcement in America, if that's the way the officers are always going to think then that country is fucked.

He was running away, nowhere near a deadly weapon, those officers lives were never at risk. If he shoots the officer with a taser (not even been confirmed if there was any taser left) the other officer could have dealt with it before he got near a deadly weapon.

The issue with officers in America is they don't know how to de-escalate situations, they often do the opposite and that is just mental in law enforcement. I know you mentioned they assume you have a weapon but that's a poor excuse to make up for their lack of skills.

By my book it's simple, you shoot a man running away without a deadly weapon it's murder.