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blueinsa
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It's the hypocrisy that winds me up.
Western European and Conservative Islamic values are not the same. On many subjects they are diametrically opposed to each other.
When two cultures mix, there's no such thing as cultural domination where one culture "beats out" another one. That's a pretty silly notion; what happens instead is that a new third culture emerges that is agreeable to both ends. So when the Normans invaded, they didn't route out the Saxon culture which in itself didn't displace the Celtic culture; instead the Celts became Anglo-Saxon and the Anglo-Saxons became what we understand now to be English. You can't unbake a cultural cake. This shouldn't be a controversial idea.
Think of it like gravity though - if a single comet tries to pass near the Earth then both the comet and the Earth attract each other by gravity. Everything has gravity, all things attract each other no matter how immeasurably small that effect may be. The Earth is actually much more massive than the comet so the Earth attracts the comet a lot and the comet attracts the Earth to it only an extremely small amount. No problems there. The comet generally falls to Earth harmlessly integrating into the rock layer that we already have here.
However, make the comet something a bit bigger but still much smaller than the Earth. How about The Moon? If the Moon were to fly-by the Earth then it wouldn't harmlessly drift into our atmosphere. There would be an almightly gravitational struggle where the Earth was knocked off its orbit slightly which would have consequences on our whole way of life. The Moon would in turn be pulled into Earth which would end up with it smashing into us and destroying itself entirely.
This is why immigration numbers matter from countries which have extremely different values to us. Immigration is perfectly fine and in fact desirable. We need exposure to other ways of life, other ways of thinking, we need labour in many fields, we need invention from our Universities and we need to work hard to make that a reality and immigrants to feel that this is their home. Too much immigration can wreck whole societies though as just a ton of historical examples show - ask the Native Americans or Africans what they believe about different cultures sharing their land and how their culture was affected.
People often say that that is cultural supremacy. They're absolutely right that it is - by almost every moral metric possible, I believe that Western European culture is superior to Conservative Islamic culture. It's not like I have a handy league table somewhere and we can sit ranking different cultures because such an exercise would be ridiculous but so is the other extreme to that that all cultures are equally moral, equally fair to its citizens, equally just, and equally mobile socially. And just like two cosmological bodies that move towards each other, if you dump a ton of immigrants from Conservative Islamic backgrounds all in the same place then our two cultures meet in the middle there. And I don't want to meet in the middle with the Conservative Islamic culture because I think it's the wrong direction for our society to move in.
Superb post yet again.