Gianluigi Donnarumma | Done deal according to Romano

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Have you not noticed? Every new potential signing is met with an element of misery and scrutiny. Check the Rodrygo thread. It’s constant.
Scrutiny is part of football discussion in every pub and on every forum in the world.

If we didn’t scrutinise players, there’d be no discussion, and just everyone giving each other a reach around like some kumbaya hippie festival.
 
I don't know if people haven't noticed but during Pre season we've been kicking long to Haaland a lot. Trafford did it at nearly every opportunity.

We haven't really been playing out from the back much. I think that Pep Lijnders ideas being taken on by Pep. He normally looks angry when we kick long instead of short but he looked like that was the plan.

It's also got us into really good attacking opportunities.
 
Oddly enough, if Donnarumma happens, I think there's wider context to consider:

A) Guardiola is definitely moving on after this contract and not changing his mind, last minute again

therefore

B) A definite change of footballing philosophy after Guardiola leaves.

As good as Donnarumma is, he's not as good with his feet as Ederson, who's not as good with his hands, but has had the shirt.

Unless, of course, Guardiola is going attack heavy and hoping we don't really need the keeper to come and bail us, so feet is not as important as it used to be?

The whole playing out completely from the back is done now as we have seen last season, no one presses us any more and we scored plenty of goals going long to Haaland quicker? We also asked questions last season about Edersons shot stopping? Donnarumma is a WAY better shot stopped than Ederson so take away the passing out from the back which came with less advantage as teams stopped pressing us then Donnarumma is the better all round keeper and 4-5 years younger than Ederson as well?
 
I'm guessing Donnarumma Champions league Ederson Premier league Trafford FA cup and Ortega Carabao.
Should keep them all happy.
Ortega is going its why he didnt travel to Plamero, he wouldn't accept 3rd choice in any case we get out of the Carabao asap nowadays
 
The whole playing out completely from the back is done now as we have seen last season, no one presses us any more and we scored plenty of goals going long to Haaland quicker?

Teams absolutely will press us with Donnarumma in goal and he is not capable of pinging a pass the length of the pitch to put it on a platter for Haaland.

If we plan on going more direct but offloading Ederson then we are going to have to put an incredible amount of work into winning second balls.
 
That point seems to have been lost.

If this deal gets done (it is dependent on Ederson leaving imo) then it would be interesting to learn why PSG and Donnarumma fell out. They have brought in another keeper. Donnarumma's Ligue 1 form reportedly slipped as well. I am not worried about this, as his quality was evident from the CL.

IMO City need this signing for 2 reasons:

1) Ederson's level has dropped, and
2) We need experience and personality in the team. I think that's part of the reason we miss Rodri when he's not there. We used to have 4-5 world class players in our team, or at least characters like Kyle Walker, but now we have Haaland and Rodri when he is fit. Players like Nunes, Rico, Foden etc might be very good but you also need authority and we have started to miss that personality factor. Other fans started to talk about our loss of aura, or fear factor, a while ago, and I thought this was a bit of nonsense but perhaps there is something in it?

Good points Marvin.

‘FourFourTwo’ wrote the below about him in their recent top 10 goalkeepers (he was their number one)…

Standing over 6ft 4in, Gianluigi Donnarumma is a daunting opponent for attackers, and that’s before he even attempts a save. But he has the shot-stopping ability to match, combining his sizeable frame with a surprising athletic streak to get his fingertips to the most unlikely of saves.


Recently, he's gone onto a new level, becoming the big-game hero to take PSG to the promised land.


Faced with penalties, as he was in the Champions League against Liverpool en route to Les Parisiens’ ultimate triumph, the net seems to shrink behind him. Just ask Darwin Nunez and Curtis Jones.


His undefeatable bravery, worn on his face in the form of a scar delivered by the boot of Monaco’s Wilfried Singo as the gloveman rushed out to claim a ball, only adds to the allure of a goalkeeper who strikes fear into the hearts of forwards every time he steps onto the pitch.
 
Teams absolutely will press us with Donnarumma in goal and he is not capable of pinging a pass the length of the pitch to put it on a platter for Haaland.

If we plan on going more direct but offloading Ederson then we are going to have to put an incredible amount of work into winning second balls.

Possibly but Donnarumma is decent with his feet but he`s not Ederson but he`s a freak Eddie as he passes better than many outfield players?
 
I just don’t see what a lot of you see with this lad:

Serie A (215 games):
15/16: 3 errors (1 goal)
16/17: 6 errors (3 goals, 1 penalty)
17/18: 8 errors (4 goals)
18/19: 3 errors (2 goals)
19/20: 7 errors (3 goals)
20/21: 2 errors (1 goal)

Ligue 1 (104 games):
21/22: 2 errors
22/23: 5 errors (3 goals, 1 penalty)
23/24: 5 errors (1 goal, 1 penalty)



I think Eddy has been responsible for at least 4 goals over last two seasons from memory
Every keeper makes mistakes leading to goals
But how many certain goals has he stopped compared to Eddy?
Also, you have to take into consideration which games those mistakes came in.
Donna looked solid in the big games I seen him. If he had thrown one in at 3 nil up that is not as important.
Stats can be misleading
 
Huge wages and I don't rate him particularly highly. Was good last season but I just don't see him as an elite GK.

It's going to be a huge change to how we build from the back tactically and we're only a few days from the start of the season.

I just think it makes a lot more sense to keep Ederson and then asses Trafford this season and then decide what level of keeper we need next summer.

But mostly it's just a feeling.

Ederson wanted to go last season had a contract on the table last season to sign has 12 months left! Sorry seems some fans just don’t know what’s going on! Maybe we going to change who we play from the back? We seen this goalie win the treble play great football! Yep goalies make mistakes all goalies makes mistakes! If you watched us last season we let a lot a goals in through transition and so many 1 on 1 in this situation you want an imposing figure they running through on like Trafford Donnarumma? We know Edersons weaknesses his shot stopping ain’t as good as the two above like The two above ain’t as good as Ederson at passing it out from the back and the long passes! Edersons a one off some going for these two as out goalies! One of the best in Europe and one of the best young goalies in Europe!
 
Teams absolutely will press us with Donnarumma in goal and he is not capable of pinging a pass the length of the pitch to put it on a platter for Haaland.

If we plan on going more direct but offloading Ederson then we are going to have to put an incredible amount of work into winning second balls.
PSG v Arsenal, PSG v Liverpool, PSG v Manchester City.
 
With regards to PSG getting rid. The new keeper they have brought in I don’t think they would have got if he were not going to be No1.
It was now or never for that deal.
Donna was never going to accept No2 and PSG won’t want to pay No1 wages to a No2 keeper
 
Possibly but Donnarumma is decent with his feet but he`s not Ederson but he`s a freak Eddie as he passes better than many outfield players?

Donnarumma is not decent with his feet.

He might end up being a great signing and we might handle the total u-turn in our build up approach flawlessly but people really need to accept that, for a modern keeper, he is below average in possession.

He is an old school goalkeeper.
 
Rotating 3 keepers would be madness in my view.
How can you build an understanding between keeper and his defence if you keep changing them….unless of course you change defenders with the same keepers. That assumes defenders are never injured which lets face it is extremely unlikely given our history!
The fewre changes the better.
We do already rotate keepers a bit.
But my post was not serious.
 
PSG v Arsenal, PSG v Liverpool, PSG v Manchester City.

PSG win more second balls than us because their midfield, front line press and full backs are on an entirely different level.

That's why they are so much more comfortable out of possession and have their signature kickoff.

I might have missed the point you were trying to make so if you're going to respond again please put more effort in.
 
I just don’t see what a lot of you see with this lad:

Serie A (215 games):
15/16: 3 errors (1 goal)
16/17: 6 errors (3 goals, 1 penalty)
17/18: 8 errors (4 goals)
18/19: 3 errors (2 goals)
19/20: 7 errors (3 goals)
20/21: 2 errors (1 goal)

Ligue 1 (104 games):
21/22: 2 errors
22/23: 5 errors (3 goals, 1 penalty)
23/24: 5 errors (1 goal, 1 penalty)



So on average he makes one mistake every 8 or 9 games
 
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