Girl savaged to death by dogs in Manchester

Cheadle_hulmeBlue said:
Ducado said:
karen7 said:
dogs of all shapes,sizes temperments have bitten their owners kids.the extreme ones make the news but it happens 3/4 times a week that i have to deal me and that is just me.if you wont accept that dogs and small kids shouldnt be left alone then no matter what i say it will make no difference

Dogs should not be left alone with kids anyway, it's just not a good thing to do, but on the same score drink causes more deaths and driving a car is more risky

exactly my point, if you have a potentially dangerous dog dont leave it with a kid, not hard to figure that out.

If you have a kid you probably shouldn't leave it on it's own full stop.
 
karen7 said:
Cheadle_hulmeBlue said:
Ducado said:
Dogs should not be left alone with kids anyway, it's just not a good thing to do, but on the same score drink causes more deaths and driving a car is more risky

exactly my point, if you have a potentially dangerous dog dont leave it with a kid, not hard to figure that out.

ANY DOG

seriously, so my uncle cant leave his trained guide dog with a kid. What about a chihuaha. you said you had dogs i think, what type of dogs do you have where you cant leave them with kids ???

dangerous dogs
should not be left with kids. my dog is great with kids, guess what its not a dangerous dog.
 
Cheadle_hulmeBlue said:
karen7 said:
Cheadle_hulmeBlue said:
exactly my point, if you have a potentially dangerous dog dont leave it with a kid, not hard to figure that out.

ANY DOG

seriously, so my uncle cant leave his trained guide dog with a kid. What about a chihuaha. you said you had dogs i think, what type of dogs do you have where you cant leave them with kids ???

dangerous dogs
should not be left with kids. my dog is great with kids, guess what its not a dangerous dog.

I'm out,there is footie to watch! I feel deperately sorry for this girl and her family and i want to leave it at that.It doesnt feel right to carry on with this
 
Cheadle_hulmeBlue said:
karen7 said:
Cheadle_hulmeBlue said:
exactly my point, if you have a potentially dangerous dog dont leave it with a kid, not hard to figure that out.

ANY DOG

seriously, so my uncle cant leave his trained guide dog with a kid. What about a chihuaha. you said you had dogs i think, what type of dogs do you have where you cant leave them with kids ???

dangerous dogs
should not be left with kids. my dog is great with kids, guess what its not a dangerous dog.

What don't you understand about the simple fact that it's an unnecessarily stupid risk to take to leave a child alone with a dog, any dog?

What if the child, not knowing any better, gets too playful with the dog and the dog naturally responds but with enough force to seriously injure the child? It might be unlikely but for most people, it's too much of a risk.

You have a nurse telling you how often it happens, you have statistics telling you it happens, why take the chance? If it happens to your child, it will be them that will have to live with the consequences, not you.

And yes, they should reintroduce licensing, and completely ban a lot of the breeds that are already around.
 
Mikecini said:
Canada a shining example...

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.dlcc.ca/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.dlcc.ca/</a>

Welcome To The Dog Legislation Council of Canada website

The Dog Legislation Council of Canada (DLCC) was formed in 2003 by three women who saw a need for dog owners to get involved in enacting solid dangerous dog laws and to promote responsible ownership across Canada. LeeAnn O’Reilly, Cathy Prothro and Dawne Deeley together founded the DLCC and are active directors in the organization.

We are a not-for-profit group counting among its members experienced, ethical and responsible dog enthusiasts nationwide.

The DLCC is Canada’s first and most unique collaborative effort of rescue volunteers, veterinarians, owners, dog trainers, breeders and handlers to promote responsible ownership of all dogs.


Our objectives are two-fold:

First is the promotion and support of responsible dog ownership. This includes child dog safety programs, bite free programs for adults working in proximity of dogs (police, post office) and working with dog owners one on one.

Second is to encourage and foster the implementation of non-breed specific dangerous dog bylaws. Non-breed specific dangerous dog by-laws designate dogs as ‘dangerous’ based on behaviour rather than breed. These bylaws allow for more efficient animal control without pointlessly punishing responsible dog owners. They address concerns with dog aggression and recognize the role of human negligence behind most incidents.

We believe that this provides greater flexibility for municipalities to address negligent dog owners while not penalizing responsible owners for their personal choice of breed.

The DLCC supports the implementation and enforcement of zero-tolerance dog licensing, zero-tolerance leash laws, and heavy fines for non-compliance.

We support financial repercussions for those owners whose dogs, when not in compliance with existing laws, cause injury to a human being or to another animal.

It is time irresponsible dog owners faced real consequences. For far too long, a person whose dog(s) mauls someone is subject to insignificant penalties, such as a fine or an order to confine or destroy them.

We believe in significant repercussions, both financial and criminal, to dog owners who, in the opinion of a judge, could reasonably forsee the occurrence of an injury based on the previous behaviour or previous multiple infractions of existing laws.

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Why can't our government use such common sense in all aspects of it's governance.
Makes me despair it really does.
 
Look,seems obvious but dogs are ANIMALS.They are not meant to sleep on slumberland beds with continental quilts.Lie on axminster rugs in front of log effect gas fires.They are pack animals with an instinct to hunt.
There should only be working dogs,ie ,guide dogs,police dogs.sheep dogs and sniffer dogs and such like.
If my kids want to see ANIMALS I take them to the zoo.
 
There is a scene in Django Unchained which i fucking hated, if you've seen it you'll know what scene I mean, I just thought to myself imagine dying like that, it would be slow and terrifying and ridiculously painful. And that was just a film.
 

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