Girl savaged to death by dogs in Manchester

Cheadle_hulmeBlue said:
karen7 said:
stonerblue said:
given the number of dog owners and the number of fatal attacks, no, it doesn't happen a lot.



the amount of dog bites i have stitched up tells me otherwise

how many?? there are barely any dog attacks in terms of the millions of dogs in the country

what kind of dogs do you deal with or that have bitten you. Not just little bites, but actually gone for you.

6,000 people per year go to hospital due to dog attacks. that equates to 16 per day.

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2081511/Bites-dangerous-dogs-6-000-victims-year-hospital.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... pital.html</a>
 
Mr White said:
A dog keeps getting out near me. It's some sort if bull terrier thing and it seems like a nice enough friendly dog jumping up and down at folk and being generally giddy. It got out when me and my six year old were out playing and it scared the shut out of him. I took it back to the owners house (young woman in pyjamas, mid afternoon). A week later it gets out again jumping up and down being daft and scaring the young kids. This time it sticks the nut on one lad and hurts his mouth. I take the dog back to the house and the fuckwit who answers is your typical young scumbag with gold chains and subhuman intelligence.

'Its not my fault, mate. It keeps getting out.'
Me- 'well keep it secure in the house or garden. There's kids playing out here.

'Im trying. I put something up against the cat flap but it gets out. (probably a cornflake box or something equally as secure!)

Then he starts effing and blinding in the middle of the street on front of the kids telling me to mind my own biz etc.

It's the owners who are fucking idiots! The dog cant really be blamed because it doesnt know any better. They shouldn't be allowed animals of any kind if they can't control them. Now everybody has been lucky up to now that its been me who's sorted the dog out. It's hurting kids and its not even being nasty. Somebody else might've hurt the dog, or the dog could've turned on the kids if they'd have kicked it away.

A dog license should be brought back and owners checked for suitability.


Rant over.

THIS great post.

The owners are responsible
 
Cheadle_hulmeBlue said:
karen7 said:
stonerblue said:
given the number of dog owners and the number of fatal attacks, no, it doesn't happen a lot.



the amount of dog bites i have stitched up tells me otherwise

how many?? there are barely any dog attacks in terms of the millions of dogs in the country

what kind of dogs do you deal with or that have bitten you. Not just little bites, but actually gone for you.

dogs of all shapes,sizes temperments have bitten their owners kids.the extreme ones make the news but it happens 3/4 times a week that i have to deal me and that is just me.if you wont accept that dogs and small kids shouldnt be left alone then no matter what i say it will make no difference
 
samharris said:
Cheadle_hulmeBlue said:
karen7 said:
the amount of dog bites i have stitched up tells me otherwise

how many?? there are barely any dog attacks in terms of the millions of dogs in the country

what kind of dogs do you deal with or that have bitten you. Not just little bites, but actually gone for you.

6,000 people per year go to hospital due to dog attacks. that equates to 16 per day.

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2081511/Bites-dangerous-dogs-6-000-victims-year-hospital.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... pital.html</a>

who many of them were significant injuries though, my dog has bitten me, but playfully lots of times. how many of those 6,000 have been as severe as the one today or recent ones in the past news.

As i said most of then time it is the owners fault.

karen7 said:
Cheadle_hulmeBlue said:
karen7 said:
the amount of dog bites i have stitched up tells me otherwise

how many?? there are barely any dog attacks in terms of the millions of dogs in the country

what kind of dogs do you deal with or that have bitten you. Not just little bites, but actually gone for you.

dogs of all shapes,sizes temperments have bitten their owners kids.the extreme ones make the news but it happens 3/4 times a week that i have to deal me and that is just me.if you wont accept that dogs and small kids shouldnt be left alone then no matter what i say it will make no difference

i do accept small kids shouldnt be left alone with dangerous dogs, i have made that point rhoughout this thread. If people werent stupid enough to do that these type of things would happen a lot less.
 
Canada a shining example...

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.dlcc.ca/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.dlcc.ca/</a>

Welcome To The Dog Legislation Council of Canada website

The Dog Legislation Council of Canada (DLCC) was formed in 2003 by three women who saw a need for dog owners to get involved in enacting solid dangerous dog laws and to promote responsible ownership across Canada. LeeAnn O’Reilly, Cathy Prothro and Dawne Deeley together founded the DLCC and are active directors in the organization.

We are a not-for-profit group counting among its members experienced, ethical and responsible dog enthusiasts nationwide.

The DLCC is Canada’s first and most unique collaborative effort of rescue volunteers, veterinarians, owners, dog trainers, breeders and handlers to promote responsible ownership of all dogs.


Our objectives are two-fold:

First is the promotion and support of responsible dog ownership. This includes child dog safety programs, bite free programs for adults working in proximity of dogs (police, post office) and working with dog owners one on one.

Second is to encourage and foster the implementation of non-breed specific dangerous dog bylaws. Non-breed specific dangerous dog by-laws designate dogs as ‘dangerous’ based on behaviour rather than breed. These bylaws allow for more efficient animal control without pointlessly punishing responsible dog owners. They address concerns with dog aggression and recognize the role of human negligence behind most incidents.

We believe that this provides greater flexibility for municipalities to address negligent dog owners while not penalizing responsible owners for their personal choice of breed.

The DLCC supports the implementation and enforcement of zero-tolerance dog licensing, zero-tolerance leash laws, and heavy fines for non-compliance.

We support financial repercussions for those owners whose dogs, when not in compliance with existing laws, cause injury to a human being or to another animal.

It is time irresponsible dog owners faced real consequences. For far too long, a person whose dog(s) mauls someone is subject to insignificant penalties, such as a fine or an order to confine or destroy them.

We believe in significant repercussions, both financial and criminal, to dog owners who, in the opinion of a judge, could reasonably forsee the occurrence of an injury based on the previous behaviour or previous multiple infractions of existing laws.

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karen7 said:
Cheadle_hulmeBlue said:
karen7 said:
the amount of dog bites i have stitched up tells me otherwise

how many?? there are barely any dog attacks in terms of the millions of dogs in the country

what kind of dogs do you deal with or that have bitten you. Not just little bites, but actually gone for you.

dogs of all shapes,sizes temperments have bitten their owners kids.the extreme ones make the news but it happens 3/4 times a week that i have to deal me and that is just me.if you wont accept that dogs and small kids shouldnt be left alone then no matter what i say it will make no difference

Dogs should not be left alone with kids anyway, it's just not a good thing to do, but on the same score drink causes more deaths and driving a car is more risky
 
M22 WOODHOUSE PARK said:
Some quite interesting statistics on dog attacks on this page......

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.ukandspain.com/dangerous-dogs/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.ukandspain.com/dangerous-dogs/</a>

Just to let people know, there is some graphic images of injuries on this page, be warned
 
Ducado said:
karen7 said:
Cheadle_hulmeBlue said:
how many?? there are barely any dog attacks in terms of the millions of dogs in the country

what kind of dogs do you deal with or that have bitten you. Not just little bites, but actually gone for you.

dogs of all shapes,sizes temperments have bitten their owners kids.the extreme ones make the news but it happens 3/4 times a week that i have to deal me and that is just me.if you wont accept that dogs and small kids shouldnt be left alone then no matter what i say it will make no difference

Dogs should not be left alone with kids anyway, it's just not a good thing to do, but on the same score drink causes more deaths and driving a car is more risky

exactly my point, if you have a potentially dangerous dog dont leave it with a kid, not hard to figure that out.
 
Cheadle_hulmeBlue said:
Ducado said:
karen7 said:
dogs of all shapes,sizes temperments have bitten their owners kids.the extreme ones make the news but it happens 3/4 times a week that i have to deal me and that is just me.if you wont accept that dogs and small kids shouldnt be left alone then no matter what i say it will make no difference

Dogs should not be left alone with kids anyway, it's just not a good thing to do, but on the same score drink causes more deaths and driving a car is more risky

exactly my point, if you have a potentially dangerous dog dont leave it with a kid, not hard to figure that out.

ANY DOG
 

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