Girl savaged to death by dogs in Manchester

Jade Anderson was a city fan
Went to my daughter s old schoo Fred longworths in tyldesley
RIP jade
 
Hamann Pineapple said:
mindmyp's_n_q's said:
I have had small bites off a Lab, yorkshire terrier, jack russel, springer spaniel, west highland white and a border terrier.

Do you smell like Pedigree Chum ?

Now that is how you write a very, very funny response to a quote York away. You should take notes.

Mr Pineapple you are a twat. A twat for that comment and a twat that it got me laughing my tits off at it.:)
 
mindmyp's_n_q's said:
york away to this! said:
mindmyp's_n_q's said:
<a class="postlink" href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/7239464.stm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/7239464.stm</a>

KENNEL CLUB (THUGDOG SUPPLEMENT) DEFINITION OF THE STAFFY TEMPERAMENT
Indomitably intimidating
Terribly pointy teeth
Highly intelligent - some would say Tyson-esque
Affectionate, especially when jumping up to maul children
Bold as a you like, will bite the leg of any passer-by.
Fearless - just like their fearless owners.
Totally squat, slavvering, grimacing beasts that will kill you if you give them the wrong look... (and as for their dogs)


thanks for the clarity...

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why would anybody want 4 dogs like that other than to intimidate,fucking workshy chavs
 
frothy said:
mindmyp's_n_q's said:
york away to this! said:
thanks for the clarity...

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why would anybody want 4 dogs like that other than to intimidate,fucking workshy chavs

They wouldn't. That's why I have said all along that the owner is the one who is responsible not the breed of dog.
 
stonerblue said:
jma said:
"My dog is as soft as anything and would never hurt a fly"

That is typical of the sort of quote on this thread.

Change the word 'is' to 'was' and the word 'would' to 'had' and you also have the standard quote from owners after many incidents where a dog has savaged someone.

The fact is, some dog breeds are far more dangerous than others. If only because they are capable of being much more aggressive and powerful if they do snap.

Of the type of breeds involved - those that people loosely stereotype as being owner by nobheads as a status symbol - I struggle to see why anyone favours them over less dangerous breeds. It is an ego trip, imo.

And I don't just mean with the type of stereotypical scrote that walks around showing off with the intention of intimidation and scaring people. I know owners of these types of dogs who would be genuinely appalled if their dog ever hurt anyone and are far, far removed from that type of scrote. However, most, if not all of them, imo, still invest a fair bit of ego in owning that type of dog. Even when train it to be totally docile, they still (not so) secretly enjoy being an owner of that type of powerful dog and enjoy being seen as the sort of person who 'knows how to handle' that type of powerful dog. A person who "has no problems" with that sort of dog. That is often an ego trip in itself. The same people are hardly likely to feel the same way about being seen as the sort of person who "has no problems" with, "can handle" and has fully domesticated a Poodle.

No matter how docile they train the dog to be, they choose that type of dog because it is that type of dog. They might not be doing so for exactly the same reason as a scrote - intimidation and fear - but the fact that the dog is a powerful dog and that type of breed is usually utmost in their thoughts.

To have that sort of dog anywhere near children is taking an awful risk, regardless of its history. It takes one incident, even if the statistics are well in your favour.

That's a good post.

I walk my dog (rottweiler) round then streets twice a day. Usually i'm wearing black coat and hat covering my face. I guess that most people that see us think i'm some scrote (albeit a very handsome one) posing with me vicious dog.
In reality, my wife picked the breed because she wanted to try and give a beautiful dog a better reputation. All the kids in my street love our dog. In summer they knock on and ask if she's coming out. We go in the bookies/shop/pub for a biscuit
Some people cross the street to avoid us when we're out, others make a detour to stroke the dog.

As for raising kids in a risk free enviroment, no chance.
More people are killed by bees/pushbikes/skateboards/choking/trains etc (it's a very long list) than dogs every year.

The benefits to mankind from having domesticated dogs far outweigh the minuscule number of deaths caused by dog 'attacks'


Although I detest such breeds and usually the owners, your post was relatively reasonable - right up until the very last word, when you undermined your whole case by implying the violence inflicted on victims doesn't constitute an attack. What the fuck is it then if it's not an attack, a little playful teasing and harmless tomfoolery? I've been bitten by a dog, and had the whole tetanus injection malarkey, and I can tell you I was shit scared - it bloody seemed like an attack on my person while it was happening.
 
Talking to Dog lovers about attacks by Dogs is sometimes like reasoning with Pro life activists outside abortion clinics.

I was once bitten by a "Nice Dog" who wouldn't hurt a fly.

The Dog owners response?

He must have been threatened by something I had done.

Absolutely mindfucked!!
 
dazdon said:
Talking to Dog lovers about attacks by Dogs is sometimes like reasoning with Pro life activists outside abortion clinics.

I was once bitten by a "Nice Dog" who wouldn't hurt a fly.

The Dog owners response?

He must have been threatened by something I had done.

Absolutely mindfucked!!

They were probably right but unless you know the dog. A mate of mine once had a dog that hated its ears being stroked.

Your first point is spot on as well.

I have argued for a while that dogs should wear muzzles but always get shouted down. There would be nobody killed by a dog with a muzzle.

Unfortunately it probably would not have helped this lass as she was in their home.
 
Not all dog lovers are deaf to anyone saying things that may contradict their feelings.

I love dog's and but accept they can snap.
However they are part of human society and that's just how it is.

I can understand people wanting fighting attributes being bred out of some breeds for safety.

The amount of dog's abused by humans far outweighs dog attacks on humans.
This can be a cause for aggression and distrust of certain actions or type of people.

I consider myself resposible and would never nurture aggression, the opposite in fact.

Seeing how i had my ex's dog behaving in just a week you have to look at the owners.
They will mirror the house and life they are company to, chaotic households with people in and out all the time and shouting is no good.
You put the same dog in a good home with structure and a good master and they will be brilliant.
 

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