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Given issues ultimatum to Mancini
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Re: Sooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!
not happy>>>>pissed off
IrishMacca said:leewill31 said:but it will be given that asks for the move so how could anybody be pissed off?
I didn't say they'd be pissed off, I said they wouldn't be happy, nor should we be if you start to loose all the leaders inside a dressing room, Dunne for instance.
That and they mightn't be pleased about Hart throwing a strop, which if he starts, which I don't think he will, it for me, sounds like City were pushed into it, play him or he wont stay. But who knows what goes on in City. That's just how it seems to come across to me.
-- Mon Aug 09, 2010 2:38 pm --
10.Goater_Legend said:Yes but Given has only been fully fit for a few weeks and even then came on for him in the second half of most games.
And played better than Hart when he came on. They both played an equal amount of time when Given was fit.
not happy>>>>pissed off
Paulmcfc2703
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I would pick Hart over Given. They are close if not on par ability wise but Hart is a lot younger. With Hart and a back four of Kolarov, Kompany, Micah and Boateng we could have a defense for years to come.
Re: Sooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!
Both have obviously read Robinho's book.;
How to act like a spoilt brat in one easy lesson.:)
Thatchersforearm said:Just saw that on SSN. Can we be clear..... None of our goalkeepers are going anywhere. I don't care what they want, they signed on, they honour their contract and give 100%
Both have obviously read Robinho's book.;
How to act like a spoilt brat in one easy lesson.:)
MnchstrCityBlues79
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Loyalty v. self-interest aside, I can't blame either for making the statements they did. Hart is at a crossroads. He has the opportunity to cement himself as England's #1 for years to come but to do so, needs first-team football in the Prem. Given, on the other hand, despite what may be said here, was widely regarded as one of, if not the, top net-minder in the Prem last year before his injury. There would be no reason for him to stick around if only to play second-fiddle to Hart.
When it comes down to it, I think if one has to go, it should be Given due to Hart's up-side and current level of performance, even if it means a slight step down in net from last season.
When it comes down to it, I think if one has to go, it should be Given due to Hart's up-side and current level of performance, even if it means a slight step down in net from last season.
Breadsnapper
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Re: Sooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!
If Taylor gets involved it will be a trilogy!
york away to this! said:is the given ultimatum the follow up to the hart ultimatum - or is it the other way round?......which is the prequel, which is the sequel?....who goes, you decide!
If Taylor gets involved it will be a trilogy!
IrishMacca
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Re: Sooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!
Here we go...
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Shay Given admits he would be willing to consider a loan move should he start the season on Manchester City's bench.
Blues boss Roberto Mancini faces a selection dilemma heading into the 2010/11 campaign, with Given competing with England hopeful Joe Hart for the No.1 spot.
Both men have strong claims to the role, with Given among the Premier League's most consistent performers and Hart having shone while on loan at Birmingham last season.
There will, however, be one man left disappointed on Saturday when City get their campaign up and running away at Tottenham Hotspur.
Should Given be the man to make way, the Republic of Ireland international has revealed that he would need to weigh up his options before deciding whether to look elsewhere for regular first-team action.
"I think we are both at a stage where we need to be playing football," he said.
"If I don't start then I will sit down with the club next week and see where my future lies, and maybe it will be vice-versa with Joe.
"We both feel that we need to be playing. I'm at a stage where I need to be playing, I'm 34 and I haven't got millions of years left to play football.
"Hopefully I will play on Saturday, but whatever decision the manager makes I will respect that and then sit down with the club next week."
Pressed on whether he may look to secure a permanent move away from Eastlands, Given insisted that he is determined to play a major role in City's ambitious plans for the future.
He added: "Ideally I would like to stay at the club because it's a big club and an ambitious club, with fantastic owners and I want to be part of that, that's why I joined in the first place.
"Possibly, if I didn't start, then there could be a loan and then I'd come back and see where that takes me."
Given is still hoping it will be he who is given the nod by Mancini on Saturday, as he admits that whoever starts at White Hart Lane can rightly consider themselves to be City's first-choice keeper.
"The manager will decide who he wants to start with on Saturday and you would imagine that will be who he wants to play in most of the games this season," he said.
"Joe's a top keeper as well so it's inevitable that there will be speculation about who will start on Saturday, that's part and parcel of being at a big club because there are so many great players there. It's not just my position, there are 10 other positions where people aren't sure who is going to play."
Here we go...
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Shay Given admits he would be willing to consider a loan move should he start the season on Manchester City's bench.
Blues boss Roberto Mancini faces a selection dilemma heading into the 2010/11 campaign, with Given competing with England hopeful Joe Hart for the No.1 spot.
Both men have strong claims to the role, with Given among the Premier League's most consistent performers and Hart having shone while on loan at Birmingham last season.
There will, however, be one man left disappointed on Saturday when City get their campaign up and running away at Tottenham Hotspur.
Should Given be the man to make way, the Republic of Ireland international has revealed that he would need to weigh up his options before deciding whether to look elsewhere for regular first-team action.
"I think we are both at a stage where we need to be playing football," he said.
"If I don't start then I will sit down with the club next week and see where my future lies, and maybe it will be vice-versa with Joe.
"We both feel that we need to be playing. I'm at a stage where I need to be playing, I'm 34 and I haven't got millions of years left to play football.
"Hopefully I will play on Saturday, but whatever decision the manager makes I will respect that and then sit down with the club next week."
Pressed on whether he may look to secure a permanent move away from Eastlands, Given insisted that he is determined to play a major role in City's ambitious plans for the future.
He added: "Ideally I would like to stay at the club because it's a big club and an ambitious club, with fantastic owners and I want to be part of that, that's why I joined in the first place.
"Possibly, if I didn't start, then there could be a loan and then I'd come back and see where that takes me."
Given is still hoping it will be he who is given the nod by Mancini on Saturday, as he admits that whoever starts at White Hart Lane can rightly consider themselves to be City's first-choice keeper.
"The manager will decide who he wants to start with on Saturday and you would imagine that will be who he wants to play in most of the games this season," he said.
"Joe's a top keeper as well so it's inevitable that there will be speculation about who will start on Saturday, that's part and parcel of being at a big club because there are so many great players there. It's not just my position, there are 10 other positions where people aren't sure who is going to play."
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Competition for keepers is different. Whoever wins will have the starting spot all season, barring a freak injury. The other one will basically be "Cudicini'ed", and ride the bench constantly except for few cup games.
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Re: Sooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!
Yes he is vice captain. The defenders get to hear him quite regularly too as they often have to defend anything that is hit with two yards of the goal line.
Im not privy to the dressing room so I wouldnt know. However I am English and can confirm that Joe Hart has a shrine built to him in the corner of the dressing room to which the other players all have to bow down to upon entering, such is his popularity.
IrishMacca said:svennis pennis said:You really think Shay is a leader?? What next, Stevie Ireland for captain?
I've never seen such a blindly loyal supporter of a national team on a forum such as yourself. You would probably stick Kevin Doyle up front over Carlos. I dont know wether to applaud you or just despair.
Given is not a leader at all, the same as Kolo isn't. Hughes made those decisions and it cost us.
As you can tell, I genuinely couldnt give a toss if Shay stays. Joe should be our number one for the next 15 years. Let him develop and grow with the team. We cant just expect to go to a champions league side, get established, possible league champions and then throw in Hart under intense pressure in 3 years. Saying that, we won't be winning anything with 'six yard shay' in goal.
I think he is, I know he is, an incredibly popular player in the City dressing room..Vice captain isn't he?
Yes he is vice captain. The defenders get to hear him quite regularly too as they often have to defend anything that is hit with two yards of the goal line.
Im not privy to the dressing room so I wouldnt know. However I am English and can confirm that Joe Hart has a shrine built to him in the corner of the dressing room to which the other players all have to bow down to upon entering, such is his popularity.
MnchstrCityBlues79
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Arshavin23 said:Competition for keepers is different. Whoever wins will have the starting spot all season, barring a freak injury. The other one will basically be "Cudicini'ed", and ride the bench constantly except for few cup games.
exactly, no reason for either Given or Hart to be happy with such an arrangement when loyalty to the club could mean deep-sixing either's carrer as a top-flight Prem keeper. Especially Given, he is 34 for cripe's sake.