Given issues ultimatum to Mancini

[IrishMacca]

Re: Sooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!

No demanding, no mention of Arsenal, when pushed to see if he'd leave he says he might consider a loan if it happened but would rather stay at City because they are a big club, an ambitious club and wants to do well there. But most of all, whatever happens he'll respect the managers decision.

 

[leewill31]

Re: Sooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!

I think he is, I know he is, an incredibly popular player in the City dressing room..Vice captain isn't he?

Yes he is vice captain. The defenders get to hear him quite regularly too as they often have to defend anything that is hit with two yards of the goal line.

Im not privy to the dressing room so I wouldnt know. However I am English and can confirm that Joe Hart has a shrine built to him in the corner of the dressing room to which the other players all have to bow down to upon entering, such is his popularity.

hahahahaha!

 

[daveduke67]

Competition for keepers is different. Whoever wins will have the starting spot all season, barring a freak injury. The other one will basically be "Cudicini'ed", and ride the bench constantly except for few cup games.

exactly, no reason for either Given or Hart to be happy with such an arrangement when loyalty to the club could mean deep-sixing either's carrer as a top-flight Prem keeper. Especially Given, he is 34 for cripe's sake.

Deep-sixing?

Will you go and explain that to my Dad - he's on holiday at his neices in Tioga - can't be far from you ;-)

 

[IrishMacca]

Mods can we make this into one topic by any chance?<br /><br />-- Mon Aug 09, 2010 2:57 pm --<br /><br />I can NO "ulitimatum" in what he actually said..surprise surprise.

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.mcfc.co.uk/News/Team-news/2010/August/Given-hoping-to-get-starting-nod" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.mcfc.co.uk/News/Team-news/20 ... arting-nod</a>

 

[The Pink Panther]

Competition for keepers is different. Whoever wins will have the starting spot all season, barring a freak injury. The other one will basically be "Cudicini'ed", and ride the bench constantly except for few cup games.

exactly, no reason for either Given or Hart to be happy with such an arrangement when loyalty to the club could mean deep-sixing either's carrer as a top-flight Prem keeper. Especially Given, he is 34 for cripe's sake.

We have 38 league matches and the possibility of 18ish in the Europa league plus the other two domestic cup comps, so, all in all that's two seasons worth of games.
I'd suggest one keeper for the league (which probably is Given as he has the number 1 jersey) and Hart for all cup games.

If we had to choose one to go, IMO it should be Given as he's in the last years of his career. I'd hold out for a fooking good price though

 

[AC1DK1LLA]

I would not be happy if Given went to a team in the prem but wouldnt mind if he went Celtic.

 

[Biggsy1]

A more balanced report on the OS now!


Shay Given is not ready to concede the Blues number one keeper slot to Joe Hart.
But as he prepares with the Republic of Ireland squad to face Argentina in a friendly he did tell a press conference that he feels he needs to be have first team football.

“I am at a stage where I need to be playing, I am 34-years-old and I have not got millions of years left to play,” he declared.

“I hope to be playing Saturday (against Spurs) but whatever decisions the manager makes I will respect that.

“I hope it is going to me but if it is not we will see what happens.

“Ideally I would like to stay at City it is a big club to be at; it is a very ambitious club with fantastic owners. I want to be part of that. That is why I joined in the first place.

“Joe's a top keeper as well so it's inevitable that there will be speculation about who will start on Saturday, that's part and parcel of being at a big club because there are so many great players there. It's not just my position, there are 10 other positions where people aren't sure who is going to play."

Boss Roberto Mancini has already said that he wants both keepers to stay and fight for a place.

“In this moment we have two good keepers and one will play and one will stay on the bench,” he said after the win over Valencia.

“We play many games, a lot of games in one year – three games every week – so we could play both goalkeepers.”

 

[FantasyIreland]

Re: Sooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!

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Given is not a leader at all, the same as Kolo isn't. Hughes made those decisions and it cost us.

I think you may be surprised just how outspoken and vocal Shay can be.In the company of his peers he is very confident,could even be mistaken for arrogance,in my opinion he is a leader and one thing is certain,he also sees himself as one.

At this point in his career he would definitely not play second fiddle to anyone,nor should he.

 

[IrishMacca]

exactly, no reason for either Given or Hart to be happy with such an arrangement when loyalty to the club could mean deep-sixing either's carrer as a top-flight Prem keeper. Especially Given, he is 34 for cripe's sake.

We have 38 league matches and the possibility of 18ish in the Europa league plus the other two domestic cup comps, so, all in all that's two seasons worth of games.
I'd suggest one keeper for the league (which probably is Given as he has the number 1 jersey) and Hart for all cup games.

If we had to choose one to go, IMO it should be Given as he's in the last years of his career. I'd hold out for a fooking good price though

You think that whoever it is who gets the cup games will be happy. We all know that's second choice. Not to mention they'll want to play all games.
Having 2 keepers rotate league and cup games will be a disaster, not just for them, but the defenders. The keeper and defender need to be a solid block, rotate you're strikers or whatever, but not keepers. It might start out fine. But if we do well in the Europa League both will want to play. The idea is you start with your kids and your second string and when the big games come around you start your starting team. That's what is done these days.

Neither will want to give that up. They both will want to play all games, it will start fine, hopefully but it'll get messy, and we all know it.
We'll loose one of them come January, that's how it'll be I'd say.

 

[foreverbluemcfc]

Dont think either of them should be sulking, just because they might not be first choice, there will be games for them both to play in, but for the long term benefit of the team it has to be joe hart, as he will build a familarity with the back 4. CTID