Given issues ultimatum to Mancini

[bluwes]

Both of em need to shut the f**k up and get on with the job they are paid handsomely to do

 

[SWP's back]

Re: Sooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!

If he wants to go on loan I don't blame him, you're not going to keep both keepers happy, not a chance and there's no point in deluding ourselvses. One will be gone come the January market.
Given wont want to sit on the bench because purely he's only a handful of years left and he shouldn't be blamed for wanting game time.
Hart should have patience to sit on the bench, he's only 23 which is incredibly young especially for a keeper, but he's spat out his dummy enough times in the pre season interviews that we know he wont stay, he thinks he better than he is, and has moaned to the media countless times.

Given's a very popular player in the dressing room and I can't see many being pleased with him being moved. Not to mention he's vice captain.

Ya..no quotes. I wont hold my breath. There are no quotes and Arsenal really..ya I can see that happening.
I mean it's not like RTE to pick up something like this, but I wont hold my breath till I see it for myself and what he actually said. Doesn't seem likely though, especially Arsenal, that's ridiculous.

But Hart is the better keeper and why should he sit on the bench just because he is young. Silly argument.

 

[malg]

Hope it's not true, because if he does move on it will be a mistake. We're the only team with 2 great keepers. Mind you, either one of them would walk into the No1 jersey at Arsenal, so I wouldn't really blame them.

 

[the goats backside]

Disappointing if true as is Joe's comment if true, we have competition all over the park so these 2 should relish the competition not want to be at a club they are a cert to start

 

[Citizen Green]

Re: Sooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!

If he wants to go on loan I don't blame him, you're not going to keep both keepers happy, not a chance and there's no point in deluding ourselvses. One will be gone come the January market.
Given wont want to sit on the bench because purely he's only a handful of years left and he shouldn't be blamed for wanting game time.
Hart should have patience to sit on the bench, he's only 23 which is incredibly young especially for a keeper, but he's spat out his dummy enough times in the pre season interviews that we know he wont stay, he thinks he better than he is, and has moaned to the media countless times.

Given's a very popular player in the dressing room and I can't see many being pleased with him being moved. Not to mention he's vice captain.

Ya..no quotes. I wont hold my breath. There are no quotes and Arsenal really..ya I can see that happening.
I mean it's not like RTE to pick up something like this, but I wont hold my breath till I see it for myself and what he actually said. Doesn't seem likely though, especially Arsenal, that's ridiculous.

But Hart is the better keeper and why should he sit on the bench just because he is young. Silly argument.

Hart isn't the better keeper, which is why he should wait on the bench, as the younger keeper, and wait for his chance.<br /><br />-- Mon Aug 09, 2010 3:41 pm --<br /><br />

If he wants to go on loan I don't blame him, you're not going to keep both keepers happy, not a chance and there's no point in deluding ourselvses. One will be gone come the January market.
Given wont want to sit on the bench because purely he's only a handful of years left and he shouldn't be blamed for wanting game time.
Hart should have patience to sit on the bench, he's only 23 which is incredibly young especially for a keeper, but he's spat out his dummy enough times in the pre season interviews that we know he wont stay, he thinks he better than he is, and has moaned to the media countless times.

Given's a very popular player in the dressing room and I can't see many being pleased with him being moved. Not to mention he's vice captain.

Ya..no quotes. I wont hold my breath. There are no quotes and Arsenal really..ya I can see that happening.
I mean it's not like RTE to pick up something like this, but I wont hold my breath till I see it for myself and what he actually said. Doesn't seem likely though, especially Arsenal, that's ridiculous.

But Hart is the better keeper and why should he sit on the bench just because he is young. Silly argument.

Hart isn't the better keeper, which is why he should wait on the bench, as the younger keeper, and wait for his chance.

 

[IrishMacca]

Re: Sooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!

If he wants to go on loan I don't blame him, you're not going to keep both keepers happy, not a chance and there's no point in deluding ourselvses. One will be gone come the January market.
Given wont want to sit on the bench because purely he's only a handful of years left and he shouldn't be blamed for wanting game time.
Hart should have patience to sit on the bench, he's only 23 which is incredibly young especially for a keeper, but he's spat out his dummy enough times in the pre season interviews that we know he wont stay, he thinks he better than he is, and has moaned to the media countless times.

Given's a very popular player in the dressing room and I can't see many being pleased with him being moved. Not to mention he's vice captain.

Ya..no quotes. I wont hold my breath. There are no quotes and Arsenal really..ya I can see that happening.
I mean it's not like RTE to pick up something like this, but I wont hold my breath till I see it for myself and what he actually said. Doesn't seem likely though, especially Arsenal, that's ridiculous.

But Hart is the better keeper and why should he sit on the bench just because he is young. Silly argument.

You think he is a better keeper. I think Given's the better keeper. And it goes on and on. And 23 as a keeper, you're a baby keeper, and nearly every keeper that age is warming the bench for an older keeper, why? Because keepers are at their best in their 30's.

 

[samharris]

SSN showed it too..tbh honest with shays injury and the possibilty it could re occur i would think that he's the one who we could afford to let go !!

 

[svennis pennis]

Re: Sooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!

but it will be given that asks for the move so how could anybody be pissed off?

I didn't say they'd be pissed off, I said they wouldn't be happy, nor should we be if you start to loose all the leaders inside a dressing room, Dunne for instance.

That and they mightn't be pleased about Hart throwing a strop, which if he starts, which I don't think he will, it for me, sounds like City were pushed into it, play him or he wont stay. But who knows what goes on in City. That's just how it seems to come across to me.

You really think Shay is a leader?? What next, Stevie Ireland for captain?

I've never seen such a blindly loyal supporter of a national team on a forum such as yourself. You would probably stick Kevin Doyle up front over Carlos. I dont know wether to applaud you or just despair.

Given is not a leader at all, the same as Kolo isn't. Hughes made those decisions and it cost us.

As you can tell, I genuinely couldnt give a toss if Shay stays. Joe should be our number one for the next 15 years. Let him develop and grow with the team. We cant just expect to go to a champions league side, get established, possible league champions and then throw in Hart under intense pressure in 3 years. Saying that, we won't be winning anything with 'six yard shay' in goal.

 

[Stuart]

Re: Sooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!

I'm happy for whoever misses out to go on loan, even to Arsenal.

They both deserve and need to be playing first team football now, it could bite us on the arse but it would be a classy thing to do IMO.

You think it would be the classy thing to do to help Arsenal strengthen in the one position they need to in order to challenge for the title? Jesus wept...

My thought's exactly .

 

[IrishMacca]

Re: Sooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!

I didn't say they'd be pissed off, I said they wouldn't be happy, nor should we be if you start to loose all the leaders inside a dressing room, Dunne for instance.

That and they mightn't be pleased about Hart throwing a strop, which if he starts, which I don't think he will, it for me, sounds like City were pushed into it, play him or he wont stay. But who knows what goes on in City. That's just how it seems to come across to me.

You really think Shay is a leader?? What next, Stevie Ireland for captain?

I've never seen such a blindly loyal supporter of a national team on a forum such as yourself. You would probably stick Kevin Doyle up front over Carlos. I dont know wether to applaud you or just despair.

Given is not a leader at all, the same as Kolo isn't. Hughes made those decisions and it cost us.

As you can tell, I genuinely couldnt give a toss if Shay stays. Joe should be our number one for the next 15 years. Let him develop and grow with the team. We cant just expect to go to a champions league side, get established, possible league champions and then throw in Hart under intense pressure in 3 years. Saying that, we won't be winning anything with 'six yard shay' in goal.

I think he is, I know he is, an incredibly popular player in the City dressing room..Vice captain isn't he?