Glastonbury 2024

I'm With Stupid said:
So after 2 albums? They headlined in 1995, the same year that What's the Story came out. And that came out in October, after the festival. SZA has an album out later this year, so literally more experienced that Oasis were when they headlined: two albums, another album coming soon. So well done on disproving your own point.

Incidentally, the other headliner that year were Pulp, who had released quite a few by that point, but only one that wouldn't be a very tricky pub quiz question. They were headlining because of Different Class, not because of the stuff they released in the late 80s.

It's not a massive surprise that a music festival wants to get the best artists at the time they're releasing their best music, not 10 years later once they've 'proved themselves worthy'. Plenty of headliners get the call after the first big album of their career. Happy Mondays after Pills, Thrills and Bellyaches. Pulp after Different Class. Oasis after Definitely Maybe. Ash in 1996 after their debut album. Travis after The Man Who. The Killers after Hot Fuss. Many of these are their first or second albums. It's just bollocks to claim that new artists don't headline. They have throughout the history of the festival.

And it's also worth mentioning that SZA's first album came out in 2017, so she's not some new act. She's presumably been performing live since before then.

As I said, "I don't like her" is completely legitimate. It just makes me laugh that every year, the Glastonbury thread descends into a bunch of old men moaning about how new music is shit and the headliners aren't worthy of the spot, comparing them to acts that were just as inexperienced when they first headlined.
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Its the aged old I don't know them or know anyone who listens to them so they mustn't be very big argument. I hadn't heard of Sza either when she was announced and understand why many are the same, but it's clear that her target demographic and therefore the one glastonbury are aiming the slot at are. And other's are in a minority as - shes consistently in the Spotify most monthly listened to. As a comparison in 2023 she was at 70m+ listens/plays per month compared to Elton at around 50m per month. It's generational, has it ever been any different?

Turn that racket down said every older generation since the beginning of pop music

@Kippaxpete I've seen your post on volunteering and will respond when I'm back home so it's not too kneejerk! If I'd responded at 7am Sunday after an over night shift it'd be a different response to now!
 
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I'm With Stupid said:
So after 2 albums? They headlined in 1995, the same year that What's the Story came out. And that came out in October, after the festival. SZA has an album out later this year, so literally more experienced that Oasis were when they headlined: two albums, another album coming soon. So well done on disproving your own point.

Incidentally, the other headliner that year were Pulp, who had released quite a few by that point, but only one that wouldn't be a very tricky pub quiz question. They were headlining because of Different Class, not because of the stuff they released in the late 80s.

It's not a massive surprise that a music festival wants to get the best artists at the time they're releasing their best music, not 10 years later once they've 'proved themselves worthy'. Plenty of headliners get the call after the first big album of their career. Happy Mondays after Pills, Thrills and Bellyaches. Pulp after Different Class. Oasis after Definitely Maybe. Ash in 1996 after their debut album. Travis after The Man Who. The Killers after Hot Fuss. Many of these are their first or second albums. It's just bollocks to claim that new artists don't headline. They have throughout the history of the festival.

And it's also worth mentioning that SZA's first album came out in 2017, so she's not some new act. She's presumably been performing live since before then.

As I said, "I don't like her" is completely legitimate. It just makes me laugh that every year, the Glastonbury thread descends into a bunch of old men moaning about how new music is shit and the headliners aren't worthy of the spot, comparing them to acts that were just as inexperienced when they first headlined.
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Pulp got the headline slot because The Stone Roses had to pull out as John Squire broke his collarbone. They wouldn't have got the gig otherwise.
 
Kippaxpete said:
I've often wondered whether it's worthwhile volunteering at Glastonbury (and other festivals for that matter). I'm curious as to whether it's possible to experience the event as a music fan or does that largely depend on the duties to which you've been assigned? Also, how easy is it to apply and is there an element of choice where your role is concerned? I'm keen to hear from someone who has had first hand experience.
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Aren’t you forgetting the last time you volunteered for something ; )
 
johnmc said:
Asked you to name me someone with no uk number one singles or albums to headline and no answer yet
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What did Billy Eilish have when she headlined? She's the youngest to headline and got bumped from the John Peel stage.

I have just got home after having an absolute ball.

Confidence Man were the best set of the weekend. They absolutely smashed the Other Stage. K Klass were great as well. Nice to hear James play the hits, at a festival for once. Sound was a little dodgy at the Other Stage on Dunday though.

Coldplay put on a great show, even if it was not my thing.
 
bluesmith said:
Its the aged old I don't know them or know anyone who listens to them so they mustn't be very big argument. I hadn't heard of Sza either when she was announced and understand why many are the same, but it's clear that her target demographic and therefore the one glastonbury are aiming the slot at are. And other's are in a minority as - shes consistently in the Spotify most monthly listened to. As a comparison in 2023 she was at 70m+ listens/plays per month compared to Elton at around 50m per month. It's generational, has it ever been any different?

Turn that racket down said every older generation since the beginning of pop music

@Kippaxpete I've seen your post on volunteering and will respond when I'm back home so it's not too kneejerk! If I'd responded at 7am Sunday after an over night shift it'd be a different response to now!
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She was not headline material at Glastonbury, regardless of her standing elsewhere.
She got the smallest ever crowd for a Gladstonbury headliner, which made it dangerous and uncomfortable elsewhere.
She would have got a bigger crowd, subbing an established headliner.
She might be the best thing since sliced bread. But, the Glastonbury crowd were just not that interested in her.
 
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