Good Article in the Independent

[svennis pennis]

Looks like we are finally going to show some patience as a club so lets get behind him and see what happens. There does seem to be an us and them attitude in the team at the moment. The Hughes way or the highway. And how can we judge him if it were any other way. It's the manager's job to manage so let him do what he has already shown he is more than capable of doing. Elano or even Robinho are not bigger than the club and as other teams have shown us time and time again, team spirit and commitment can overturn any apparent gap in the talent department. Hughes will build us a team with those qualities. Hopefully he can do it with some significant talent as well.

As for leaking to the press that would appear to be saying to the fans 'look boys we know it aint good but bear with us cos there are some bad apples here that we may need to get rid of if their attitude does not improve and that will start to happen in less than two weeks..'.

I agree. Id rather these 'bad apples' are gone from our club wether hughes stays or not. Its a weird time to find some faith in the guy but im starting to see it now. I think he will do well if he is given time. Svens regime by all accounts was a free for all, I remember when Hughes arrived there were already stories about Elanos attitude surfacing, especially after the Germany training camp. He is clearly not pulling his weight but is, in my opinion using his status as a key player to undermine the manager.

 

[ejohn]

Bob Kowalski: Excellent posts this morning, clearly lost on a few who refuse to accept all the facts placed before them.

We are at crisis point, and will implode if defeat happens tomorrow.

Les has all but declared war on a number of key players.

Its his last throw of the dice.

All we can do, is keep posting and hope this adds to the limited time scale agent les has.


Keep up the good work.

 

[leewill31]

Bob Kowalski: Excellent posts this morning, clearly lost on a few who refuse to accept all the facts placed before them.

We are at crisis point, and will implode if defeat happens tomorrow.

Les has all but declared war on a number of key players.

Its his last throw of the dice.

All we can do, is keep posting and hope this adds to the limited time scale agent les has.


Keep up the good work.

there seems to be some facts you seem not want to see either by your post!

 

[Brucie Bonus]

Bob Kowalski: Excellent posts this morning, clearly lost on a few who refuse to accept all the facts placed before them.

We are at crisis point, and will implode if defeat happens tomorrow.

Les has all but declared war on a number of key players.

Its his last throw of the dice.

All we can do, is keep posting and hope this adds to the limited time scale agent les has.


Keep up the good work.

LOL. Why don't you name those "few"? Whilst you're at it, tell me all about "facts placed before [them]". Tell me about the "number of key players." [my emphasis] Name them. How many? Tell me why they are key.
ANOTHER...

...lost up his own rhetorical backside.

 

[svennis pennis]

Bob Kowalski: Excellent posts this morning, clearly lost on a few who refuse to accept all the facts placed before them.

We are at crisis point, and will implode if defeat happens tomorrow.

Les has all but declared war on a number of key players.

Its his last throw of the dice.

All we can do, is keep posting and hope this adds to the limited time scale agent les has.


Keep up the good work.

Did the rot not start this time last year under Sven? Hughes clearly wont accept this attitude, unlike Sven. That to me says these players werent up to it then, and they certainly arent up for it now.

 

[chesterguy]

There seem to be alot of people who think they know the inner workings of the club the way they pontificate on here.

I would say 99.99% of us have not a clue what the relationship between Hughes and the players are but we seem to take it as fact that there is a "war" going on. Unless someone can substantiate these rummours why dont people wind their necks in and stop regurgitating rumours that they have either read on here or heard in the pub.

Now is the time for us all to get behind the TEAM and cheer thme on the atmosphere at the CoMS was awful last game and we need to be the 12th man and Xmas will be hugely important to us in where we finish this season.

 

[PaulC1979]

Forgetting Hughes man management for the moment, it is clear there are players at the club who are simple lazy, disinterested and/or just wanting to pick up the cash. The rot started last January. Now before someone says 'But Sven told them he was leaving' etc ... I don't give a shit about that. They are professionals. These people are paid a FORTUNE to play for Manchester City FC, not SGE, not Hughes. The 8-1 'player strike' result against Boro quite frankly sums up the attitude of a large number of them. That was a disgrace and simply not acceptable, whatever the reasons.

Why do players who want to train hard = Blackburn. Sorry, but they are professional sportsmen. They're not paid to just jog around for 90mins every so often. They're paid to train, train hard, day in, day out and keep themselves in shape. If certain players are not doing this and more interested in a doss about then they have to go. The general consensus seems to be Mourinho would be a top choice manager. Now his ethic is training, training, training. Now if some of our players don't like Hughes training, how are they going to get on with Mourinhos?

Some people also seem to be under the impression that Chelsea went from nothing to league winners overnight. What rubbish. It took them 5/6 seasons of building & a hell of a lot of money (even before Roman turned up). Money does not equal instant success, we're so far behind the top 4 (even behind Villa and a few other clubs) that it will take a good few transfer windows and more than a couple of 'superstar' signings to turn us round.

Yes Hughes has made some baffling choices, but it is clear (to me anyway) that there is an issue with a number of players in the team. A good number of the team were here under Pearce and have played a total of half a season of good football (first half of last season), clearly they are not good enough, they haven't been good enough under 3 managers.

 

[bluemanc]

Bob Kowalski: Excellent posts this morning, clearly lost on a few who refuse to accept all the facts placed before them.

We are at crisis point, and will implode if defeat happens tomorrow.

Les has all but declared war on a number of key players.

Its his last throw of the dice.

All we can do, is keep posting and hope this adds to the limited time scale agent les has.


Keep up the good work.

All we can do, is keep posting and hope this adds to the limited time scale agent les has.

PMSL,you will make a good leader,i can tell.

 

[City_Gentleman]

He'd like it to appear to be everybody's fault but his own it seems. He's a poor manager making excuses to his mate in the press. It's the same after matches, in typical rag style.

Distinct lack of quotes in the article. Could easily be based on just hearsay. Although I still reserve judgement on Mr Hughes we have to see how things pan out after January. It's probably a fact that 4 -6 of the players don't believe they will be playing first team football for mcfc much longer.

 

[mammutly]

I think the article is OK but it seems to use Stephen Ireland as an example of Hughes' methods working. Stephen Ireland did his extra training all summer off his own bat. Hughes had nothing to do with it.

If the level of unrest in the squad is as serious as this article suggests, then major action is needed and needed soon. These kinds of rifts in the workforce don't just go away. They tend to get worse if anything, and you need to bear in mind what the effect of shipping players out because they're not in tune with the manager has on those that stay.

If Hughes is to remain he needs to do some serious bridge building. Otherwise we are in deep shit.