Good Rape, Bad Rape, Not really Rape

cockneycarparkm32 said:
Ken Clarke violates politics with those views,silly little insignificant man .

After 13 years of distinctly illiberal Home Secretaries and Justice Ministers I would have thought that many people on the left were relieved that we had someone in at least one of those posts who doesn't pander to The Daily Mail.
 
There are different degrees of rape imo otherwise there wouldn't be such a broad range of sentences for the crime. It didn't help that he came across as an insensitive, bumbling idiot who didn't sound like he had a clue what he was talking about. You have to be slick and hugely articulate to be a politician these days, he isn't, possibly because he is too old to think quickly enough.
 
all rapes are bad but the justice system grades different types of rape so the system acknowledge this

aggravated rape with a knife held to the throat is a different thing entirely to a bit pissed up no-ones entirely sure what went on or a 18 year old with his consenting 15 year old girlfriend

ridiculous witch hunt which has more to do with our pathetic and immature us versus them political system than anything else
 
Balti said:
all rapes are bad but the justice system grades different types of rape so the system acknowledge this

aggravated rape with a knife held to the throat is a different thing entirely to a bit pissed up no-ones entirely sure what went on or a 18 year old with his consenting 15 year old girlfriend

ridiculous witch hunt which has more to do with our pathetic and immature us versus them political system than anything else

Very true.
 
gordondaviesmoustache said:
cockneycarparkm32 said:
Ken Clarke violates politics with those views,silly little insignificant man .

After 13 years of distinctly illiberal Home Secretaries and Justice Ministers I would have thought that many people on the left were relieved that we had someone in at least one of those posts who doesn't pander to The Daily Mail.

Well, if he believes he was right he should stick to his guns and not backpeddle and pander to Maildom. It was, a crass comment . Its an emotive subject that should been better brouched , with the use of dignity .
 
cockneycarparkm32 said:
gordondaviesmoustache said:
cockneycarparkm32 said:
Ken Clarke violates politics with those views,silly little insignificant man .

After 13 years of distinctly illiberal Home Secretaries and Justice Ministers I would have thought that many people on the left were relieved that we had someone in at least one of those posts who doesn't pander to The Daily Mail.

Well, if he believes he was right he should stick to his guns and not backpeddle and pander to Maildom. It was, a crass comment . Its an emotive subject that should been better brouched , with the use of dignity .

I imagine if he'd failed to qualify his statement and 'stuck to his guns' you would have criticised him for being out of touch and insensititve. To describe a figure of the magnitude of Ken Clarke as insignificant suggests you are unable to view anything he says with any degree of objectivity whatsoever.
 
gordondaviesmoustache said:
cockneycarparkm32 said:
gordondaviesmoustache said:
After 13 years of distinctly illiberal Home Secretaries and Justice Ministers I would have thought that many people on the left were relieved that we had someone in at least one of those posts who doesn't pander to The Daily Mail.

Well, if he believes he was right he should stick to his guns and not backpeddle and pander to Maildom. It was, a crass comment . Its an emotive subject that should been better brouched , with the use of dignity .

I imagine if he'd failed to qualify his statement and 'stuck to his guns' you would have criticised him for being out of touch and insensititve. To describe a figure of the magnitude of Ken Clarke as insignificant suggests you are unable to view anything he says with any degree of objectivity whatsoever.
 

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