Grenfell Tower block disaster

It was their job to risk assess the materials used in the construction so doubting their knowledge on that subject seems a little strange.
I agree there may be more to this than meets the eye but there are laws in place to enforce Health and Safety which are enforced at various stages by the HSE and or the council.

It was neccessarily their responsibility to check the materials used, if it was we do not know what product information was provided or if the contractor followed the specification.
Furthermore Its been stayed today the product has failed the safety tests which does not determine if it failed the require specification or failed the performance it states it will achieve.
 
I don't think this will end up been confined to tower blocks soon, there was a program on tv not long ago on new builds and the amount of things wrong with them, no insulation etc . Building control have not been doing their jobs full stop, I'm just leaving a 2007 new build we had lots of problems when we moved in but luckily got them sorted others in our street not so lucky and still have leaking roofs 10 years on, I'll be glad to go.

Unless there was a massive gaping hole in your roof, started leaking immediately I very much doubt its a Building Control issue. More a workmanship issue.
 
It is truly pissing me off this belief by elements on the left that cladding was put on buildings to 'gentrify' buildings and make them look nicer.
The cladding was put on so the buildings would become energy efficient and help reduce the countries CO2 emissions - if it made the buildings look nicer as a result of this great but it's all down to the UK trying to meet emissions targets. Subsequent to these decisions, anybody who wouldn't think that that the owners - mainly councils - wouldn't try and do this at the lowest price possible is living in cloud cuckoo land.

As to Corbyn's mob blaming the Tories now that doesn't fecking wash either. A a liberal (small l) I have to say that EVERY POLITICAL PARTY IN THE UK HAS SOME RESPONSIBILITY FOR WHAT HAS HAPPENED.
Concerns were raised raised about the fire risk of cladding as far back as 2000 in a parliamentary report produced by the Environment, Transport and Regional Affairs Committee after an inquiry after a blaze tore through a 14-storey block of flats in Irvine, Ayrshire, in June 1999, killing an elderly man.
This report concluded that cladding should be non-combustible or not pose an unacceptable level of risk to tenants.
Now pardon my f*cking french but what the fuck happened to this report? Not just once either, every 5 or so years a fire happens that leads to this issue being revisited again and again. The last time in 2013 after a coroner's inquest report into a fire in Camberwell in 2009. On this occasion a report was commissioned as to what needed to be done to regulations that supposedly reported to the minister a couple of months ago.

Here is the list of shame for those responsible at cabinet level , for those who can be arsed looking it up.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deputy_Prime_Minister_of_the_United_Kingdom
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secretary_of_State_for_the_Environment,_Transport_and_the_Regions
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secretary_of_State_for_Communities_and_Local_Government

Labour: John Prescott (1997), David Miliband (May 2005), Ruth Kelly (May 2006), Hazel Blears (June 2007), John Denham (June 2009).
Conservative: Eric Pickles (May 2010), Greg Clark (May 2015).
Now they have a stack of junior ministerial assistants, including a Lib Dem for Pickles. There are a stack of MPs on local government and the regions committees that go through the departments documentation to hold the departments actions to account.

I could even include the replacement of London Building Regs in 1986 with National Regulations but that didn't have an effect till years later when cladding was slapped on the buildings to reduce CO2 emissions.

Then there are umpteen local authorities who have representation on the BRAC (Building Regulation Advisory Committe) an NGO that controls building regulations with Government, Local Authority and Building Industry representation.

In short, as a country we have slept walked into this catastrophe.
 
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Unless there was a massive gaping hole in your roof, started leaking immediately I very much doubt its a Building Control issue. More a workmanship issue.
That as well, the point is if building control aren't checking whether things are been done properly insulation etc, what chance do the residents have.
 
That as well, the point is if building control aren't checking whether things are been done properly insulation etc, what chance do the residents have.

Those days are gone pal. Like everything else in this country its been devalued and deregulated and a race to the bottom has ensued.
 

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