Greta Thunberg

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[aguerrrroooooooooooo]

Both very interesting videos

 

[aguero93:20]

After looking at some of the per capita figures, we need to nuke Luxembourg and Kuwait.

 

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[inbetween]

CO2 levels in the atmosphere
Weekly averages

12 January 2020: 412.82 ppm
This time last year: 410.66 ppm
10 years ago: 388.41 ppm
Pre-industrial base: 280
Safe level: 350

Atmospheric CO2 reading from Mauna Loa, Hawaii (part per million). Source: NOAA-ESRL

Scientists have warned for more than a decade that concentrations of more than 450ppm risk triggering extreme weather events and temperature rises as high as 2C, beyond which the effects of global heating are likely to become catastrophic and irreversible.

This is all well and good and let's say climate change is 100% true (I honestly believe it is) then great fine, we've established that. Even the UK government believes in climate change as do most UK companies who are all taking extensive actions to do something about it.....

So what do we do next? Do we ban the production of meat? Ban planes? Ban cars?

Seriously beyond endlessly trying to prove that climate change is happening which every company and government already agrees with..... What do we do now?

Nuclear power is a fantastic way to start.... But yep let's see how many climate activists support nuclear power!

Clearly this isn't an emergency then because it's clearly only an emergency when the debated solutions fit a political utopia and agenda that activists want.

 

[aguerrrroooooooooooo]

This is all well and good and let's say climate change is 100% true (I honestly believe it is) then great fine, we've established that. Even the UK government believes in climate change as do most UK companies who are all taking extensive actions to do something about it.....

So what do we do next? Do we ban the production of meat? Ban planes? Ban cars?

We can have the argument on energy production but that is 25% of the problem, 25% is transport and the other 50% is mixed between agriculture and alsorts of other things.

So seriously beyond endlessly trying to prove that climate change is happening which every company and government already agrees with..... What do we do now?

Nuclear power is a fantastic way to start.... But yep let's see how many climate activists support nuclear power!

Clearly this isn't an emergency then because it's clearly only an emergency when the debated solutions fit a political utopia and agenda that activists want.

This chart pretty much answers your question, over 60% of our emissions comes from electricity and heat production along with transport

 

[mexico1970]

Nuclear power is a fantastic way to start.... But yep let's see how many climate activists support nuclear power!

Clearly this isn't an emergency then because it's clearly only an emergency when the debated solutions fit a political utopia and agenda that activists want.

There will be different factions of activists who want different aims, there will in time be genuine climate terrorists issuing demands and killing people. It'll hit home when everyone realises that on the whole people are not going to give up their lifestyle.
Fast forward 20 years and we'll be living under a Maoist state eating cardboard.

 

[MillionMilesAway]

It's not a matter of stopping things dead; there is no immediate fix that will resolve the whole thing (banning cars would be more destructive to society, as there has been no real investment in alternatives).

It's a matter of trying to slow the advance down as much as possible in order to provide time to find real solutions. Not doing anything is a terrible approach to take to any problem.

It'll be expensive whatever the decision taken, and kicking it down the road is just an intention to make it someone else's problem. As an example, the British government have harped on about going to electric cars (or at least non-petrol) cars, but there's barely a peep out of how this is going to be done (a parliamentary business committee described the plans to be vague a couple of years back). Instead, they have self-servers like Cameron cancelling the 'green crap'. What they need is a cross-party approach to it; it's taken well over 10 years to not build a runway at Heathrow, at least six years to build HS2 to Birmingham (even if they hit the claimed date) - the idea that there will be carbon-neutral cars in 20 years seems like pie in the sky at best.

 

[aguerrrroooooooooooo]

Apparently we subsidise fossil fuels more than renewables. That is insanity

 

[allblackcitizen]

There will be different factions of activists who want different aims, there will in time be genuine climate terrorists issuing demands and killing people. It'll hit home when everyone realises that on the whole people are not going to give up their lifestyle.
Fast forward 20 years and we'll be living under a Maoist state eating cardboard.

It's a funny old world when people are more worried about the actions of a few motivated people than the main problem.