Gundogan

[aguero93:20]

As first posts go, that's particularly shit.

Surprised it got past approval to be honest.

 

[jimharri]

As first posts go, that's particularly shit.

Yep. The fact that he even referenced that bloody song should warrant a permaban.

 

[sk3ptical]

He's a top player but his injury record is concerning, especially considering our penchant for somehow making injury prone players even more injury prone.

for gods sake he played 40 games last season

 

[Tugay One Cup]

Yep. The fact that he even referenced that bloody song should warrant a permaban.

Who's Icky Gundogan?

 

[Barry's left peg]

Maybe we should forget Gundogan and just go after whoever they've identified to replace him. Cut out the middle man and save 3 years and £20m.

Tielemans from Amderlecht then

 

[ono]

for gods sake he played 40 games last season

And missed 15 through injury.

Considering he currently has a dislocated knee, and missed the full 13/14 season with a compressed spine i don't think it's crazy to worry about his fitness record, especially given our luck with injuries, added to the injury record of the team (bayern) lead by our new coach. I think it's logical to be wary.

 

[sk3ptical]

And missed 15 through injury.

Considering he currently has a dislocated knee, and missed the full 13/14 season with a compressed spine i don't think it's crazy to worry about his fitness record, especially given our luck with injuries, added to the injury record of the team (bayern) lead by our new coach. I think it's logical to be wary.

well if he can give us 40 games next season then i will be good with that

 

[BlueDeadHead]

I'm not saying he has a weakness ala Kompany, but he without question misses too many games for my liking currently.

I think he could be brilliant for us, but he doesn't solve our midfield problem if we don't have an adequate alternate playing his role if/when he is injured.

He has had two unrelated somewhat fluke injuries. I am strongly in the camp that we are getting the steal of the window.

 

[MillionDollarDream]

Well from those replies I'm a lot more excited over this now as he's over long-term/recurring injuries and can stay fit. If he plays a role similar to Modric then that would immediately put us up a notch, we've always seemed to lack someone like that - that can hold the midfield, keep possession and find passes (Yaya could against smaller teams but couldn't do it against bigger teams in Europe due to his poor work-rate). If Ferna can improve his ability to maintain possession in passing then they'll be a perfect compliment to each other.

The only question I find myself asking about Pep's team - where does Silva fit in?

Silva will be like Robben/Ribery in that good on their day but will slowly start to be phased out/not start as often as we're used to seeing.

Sterling,KDB, Gudogan and hopefully Sané are the future to build around.

 

[Tugay One Cup]

Groündhoğan day.

Just want to see him with the shirt.

 

[Bill]

He has had two unrelated somewhat fluke injuries. I am strongly in the camp that we are getting the steal of the window.

Agreed.

 

[leighton]

It makes me laugh at times some of the posts. Gundogan will be good to go and be a different type of player. It a bit of a wow factor to have him in midfield with KDB , Silva and Nasri if he stays. I think with Pep at the club he will get Silva back to his best again. Silva will be out Iniesta in a Pep team. Smart player to keep the ball and pass it well. Only lacks goals to make him a World class player.

 

[adrianr]

It makes me laugh at times some of the posts. Gundogan will be good to go and be a different type of player. It a bit of a wow factor to have him in midfield with KDB , Silva and Nasri if he stays. I think with Pep at the club he will get Silva back to his best again. Silva will be out Iniesta in a Pep team. Smart player to keep the ball and pass it well. Only lacks goals to make him a World class player.

In his defence Xavi never put up huge numbers for goals and he was undeniably world class. In Gungodan we're buying our own Xavi (I'm not expecting him to be that good, but I expect that's the closest to the role he will play).

 

[Tugay One Cup]

In his defence Xavi never put up huge numbers for goals and he was undeniably world class. In Gungodan we're buying our own Xavi (I'm not expecting him to be that good, but I expect that's the closest to the role he will play).

To be fair, even Iniesta has scored on average less than one in ten games for Barca and Silva has one in six for us.

Silva not scoring enough goals for us is a bit of a myth. On the other hand, he would have scored a lot more earlier on if his finishing was better.

 

[Slashman X]

To be fair, even Iniesta has scored on average less than one in ten games for Barca and Silva has one in six for us.

Silva not scoring enough goals for us is a bit of a myth. On the other hand, he would have scored a lot more earlier on if his finishing was better.

Didn't Iniesta go like an entire season without an assist recently too? Yet no one would say he's not one of the best playmakers in the world. Stats can be deceiving.

 

[IWasHere]

It makes me laugh at times some of the posts. Gundogan will be good to go and be a different type of player. It a bit of a wow factor to have him in midfield with KDB , Silva and Nasri if he stays. I think with Pep at the club he will get Silva back to his best again. Silva will be out Iniesta in a Pep team. Smart player to keep the ball and pass it well. Only lacks goals to make him a World class player.

He's already a world class player, just because he doesn't score goals doesn't mean he's not world class

Silva has scored 4 goals and has 11 assists this season, iniesta has 1 goal 4 assists

Not to mention silvas been playing with an injury whilst iniesta has been playing alongside the best front 3

 

[leighton]

He's already a world class player, just because he doesn't score goals doesn't mean he's not world class

Silva has scored 4 goals and has 11 assists this season, iniesta has 1 goal 4 assists

Not to mention silvas been playing with an injury whilst iniesta has been playing alongside the best front 3

Yeah but it is crazy to see people writing Silva off he has another 3 years at least to give us. A poor season last season by his high standards as he had the injuries but he is a classy player.

 

[Zin 'messiah' Zimmer]

Yeah but it is crazy to see people writing Silva off he has another 3 years at least to give us. A poor season last season by his high standards as he had the injuries but he is a classy player.

Just out of curiosity Leighton, how many seasons did you feel yaya had left in him at the end of 13/14?? Silva is declining, if people want to admit that or not is a different story... He's still a brilliant player but we've seen the frustration with him this season, he will be phased out over the next couple of years and head home!!

 

[talkativesprout]

Just out of curiosity Leighton, how many seasons did you feel yaya had left in him at the end of 13/14?? Silva is declining, if people want to admit that or not is a different story... He's still a brilliant player but we've seen the frustration with him this season, he will be phased out over the next couple of years and head home!!

I would be reticent to judge anyone on last years performance

 

[Zin 'messiah' Zimmer]

I would be reticent to judge anyone on last years performance

That's not the point, he will get plenty of games next season but it will be more sporadic than we've seen before.. He also shouldn't be starting in the middle over KDB, Pep won't play him out wide anymore, too much of a liability in the systems he likes to play!!