Hansen, Lawrensen and Shearer bring shame on the BBC

Hart of the matter said:
Yet again Monkfish using the word radicalised to characterise anyone with different point of view. Shame. He makes a lot of valid points that are real issues within this topic thread then blows it with that use of his favourite word. Anyway bored of the thread that started with some valid concerns which appeared to impact on broadcasters, and has descended into a forum for some to belittle other fans views. Puerile statements about not being true City fans are not acceptable and arrogant.

Actually I believe that anybody who cares enough about their football team to post 1000's of mesages on a forum is 'radicalised' to some extent - so I would also include DD and myself in that. I would imagine pretty much everyone on here has 'blue tinted specs' to some degree that often stop them seeing the truth from small decisions like 'was it a foul' to big like 'is one of our players being racially abused by the national broadcaster'

Not sure where you got the 'not true city fans' bit from so cant comment on imaginary readings I'm afraid.

-- Sat Jul 14, 2012 12:28 pm --

Damocles said:
Monkfish said:
So your viewpoint should not be challenged on here. And if it is its known as mocking and belittling?

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No answers, post cartoon, claim moral high ground? Impressively done. I'm clearly out of my depth.
 
Hansen and Lawro are moronic idiots who knows absolutely sweet fuck all about modern football, not sure they are racist though.

It is possible to be an idiot without being a racist.
 
Damocles said:
The Future's Blue said:
On DDs point, is it something to do with Mancini?

A different angle and all that?


He does have a point. It's a form of selection bias; people will remember them slating City but will never remember them slating others so presume that people just indiscriminately slate City.

I'm by no means defending Hansen's comments which were mean spirited at best, but this is his personal opinion which he is asked to share a part of his job. He didn't break any laws, he certainly didn't say anything racist (which is a ridiculous strawman to build and cheapens the case against those who are legitimately racist against Balotelli), and he gave his analysis as he saw fit.

His job is not to be an expert on football, his job is to give opinions on football, these are not the same thing. Gary Neville is paid to be an expert on football. Alan Hansen is paid to be a critic.

I also don't remember people having these sorts of campaigns when he was slating players of other clubs.

I would like to think they would if one of their players were being vilified to this extent.

As to the racist agenda. Surely there is no more repugnant player in our league than Wayne Rooney. Yet he is left well alone by Hansen et al. He's British. Even Cantona with his eccentricity and kung fu attack was respected by these same idiots. So what is it with Balotelli. Is it the colour of skin, gangsta jewellry what? Please explain.
 
schfc6 said:
Let's not stand up for what we believe is right. DD thinks its pointless. Just 3 initial complaints were enough to see the back of Jonathan Ross from the BBC. 

There were 100's of complaints after the England game, and again after the semi final, perhaps it was coincidence, or perhaps the BBC took notice as we all saw their bit on Mario yet Alan Hansen still waited to offer his bile. Hansen has before shown himself to be a racist.  So no surprise there.

DD, If your brains were petrol you wouldn't get out of the garage. 
You are a sad little man who no doubt has seen very little of the world. 
Stuck in a time when things were considered better, where the young respected their elders and footballers were good and honest, working class Hero's. 

Your conduct, knowledge and opinions on bluemoon have shown you to be quite the moron. 
I'm yet to see or hear Mario do or say anything as stupid as 'we'll win nothing with Mancini.'

My opinions of you are low, I believe you to have a basic education, living a pointless life, in no way inspiring anyone in anyway, most likely still living with your parents despite being well into your 40's. 

As I say these are just my opinions. 

Now imagine I am a paid expert on the BBC and I'm allowed to air these opinions without you being afforded any opportunity to defend or even offer any sort of counter argument. 
Would you consider that fair & balanced? Remember these are just my opinions. 

Mario has/had no way of defending himself, myself and others feel that to be unfair, hence our complaints. 

I guess many would consider following a football team a waste of time, or posting 1000's of times on a forum a little pointless but yet you, we, people do it. 

If each time you came on here everyone who shared my opinion just called you a thick fucker because of things you've said in the past would find this fair? If everytime you went to work your boss or co-workers called you thick or selfish or ignorant each and every day no matter what you had or were doing. Would you find that fair? 

I think you are a thick, lonely little man. However I'm happy that you have the opportunity to defend yourself, or voice your opinions about me. You may well not care what I think of you, you may not care to respond but you do have the opportunity to do so, something Mario does not. 

The basis of my complaint to the BBC was Mario was being bullied, with no balance in opinions or opportunity for Mario to defend himself. 

I am an early 30's white male with a University education, I run my own compan, I live in Cheshire, with my  better half and my dogs, I have spent time and worked in Austrailia, America, South America, Asia & Africa. I have had a season ticket for over 20 years, I have been to 100's of away games. Irrelevant to my post, but relevant to my complaint, I'm not just a teenager who loves Balotelli.
I found the BBC's comments about him to be disgusting, unbalanced and bordering on racial bullying. 

You talk about embarrassing the club. You and your anti Mancini agenda were embarrassing. Forming your 'negative Mancini' opinions based on what the red tops were saying was embarrassing. Not being able to see that a manager who signed primarily attacking players would eventually play attacking football was embarrassing, being so vocal all over the Internet was & is embarrassing. 

Point being you make mistakes, I make mistakes but I, you are always afforded the opportunity to respond. 
You should post more.
 
malg said:
schfc6 said:
Let's not stand up for what we believe is right. DD thinks its pointless. Just 3 initial complaints were enough to see the back of Jonathan Ross from the BBC. 

There were 100's of complaints after the England game, and again after the semi final, perhaps it was coincidence, or perhaps the BBC took notice as we all saw their bit on Mario yet Alan Hansen still waited to offer his bile. Hansen has before shown himself to be a racist.  So no surprise there.

DD, If your brains were petrol you wouldn't get out of the garage. 
You are a sad little man who no doubt has seen very little of the world. 
Stuck in a time when things were considered better, where the young respected their elders and footballers were good and honest, working class Hero's. 

Your conduct, knowledge and opinions on bluemoon have shown you to be quite the moron. 
I'm yet to see or hear Mario do or say anything as stupid as 'we'll win nothing with Mancini.'

My opinions of you are low, I believe you to have a basic education, living a pointless life, in no way inspiring anyone in anyway, most likely still living with your parents despite being well into your 40's. 

As I say these are just my opinions. 

Now imagine I am a paid expert on the BBC and I'm allowed to air these opinions without you being afforded any opportunity to defend or even offer any sort of counter argument. 
Would you consider that fair & balanced? Remember these are just my opinions. 

Mario has/had no way of defending himself, myself and others feel that to be unfair, hence our complaints. 

I guess many would consider following a football team a waste of time, or posting 1000's of times on a forum a little pointless but yet you, we, people do it. 

If each time you came on here everyone who shared my opinion just called you a thick fucker because of things you've said in the past would find this fair? If everytime you went to work your boss or co-workers called you thick or selfish or ignorant each and every day no matter what you had or were doing. Would you find that fair? 

I think you are a thick, lonely little man. However I'm happy that you have the opportunity to defend yourself, or voice your opinions about me. You may well not care what I think of you, you may not care to respond but you do have the opportunity to do so, something Mario does not. 

The basis of my complaint to the BBC was Mario was being bullied, with no balance in opinions or opportunity for Mario to defend himself. 

I am an early 30's white male with a University education, I run my own compan, I live in Cheshire, with my  better half and my dogs, I have spent time and worked in Austrailia, America, South America, Asia & Africa. I have had a season ticket for over 20 years, I have been to 100's of away games. Irrelevant to my post, but relevant to my complaint, I'm not just a teenager who loves Balotelli.
I found the BBC's comments about him to be disgusting, unbalanced and bordering on racial bullying. 

You talk about embarrassing the club. You and your anti Mancini agenda were embarrassing. Forming your 'negative Mancini' opinions based on what the red tops were saying was embarrassing. Not being able to see that a manager who signed primarily attacking players would eventually play attacking football was embarrassing, being so vocal all over the Internet was & is embarrassing. 

Point being you make mistakes, I make mistakes but I, you are always afforded the opportunity to respond. 
You should post more.

Yes we need more people throwing insults on the forum.
 
How many times did lawro & hansen slate suarez on motd..

Did they say liverpool & daglish were bang out of order over the events..

Did they fuck!
 
franksinatra said:
malg said:
schfc6 said:
Let's not stand up for what we believe is right. DD thinks its pointless. Just 3 initial complaints were enough to see the back of Jonathan Ross from the BBC. 

There were 100's of complaints after the England game, and again after the semi final, perhaps it was coincidence, or perhaps the BBC took notice as we all saw their bit on Mario yet Alan Hansen still waited to offer his bile. Hansen has before shown himself to be a racist.  So no surprise there.

DD, If your brains were petrol you wouldn't get out of the garage. 
You are a sad little man who no doubt has seen very little of the world. 
Stuck in a time when things were considered better, where the young respected their elders and footballers were good and honest, working class Hero's. 

Your conduct, knowledge and opinions on bluemoon have shown you to be quite the moron. 
I'm yet to see or hear Mario do or say anything as stupid as 'we'll win nothing with Mancini.'

My opinions of you are low, I believe you to have a basic education, living a pointless life, in no way inspiring anyone in anyway, most likely still living with your parents despite being well into your 40's. 

As I say these are just my opinions. 

Now imagine I am a paid expert on the BBC and I'm allowed to air these opinions without you being afforded any opportunity to defend or even offer any sort of counter argument. 
Would you consider that fair & balanced? Remember these are just my opinions. 

Mario has/had no way of defending himself, myself and others feel that to be unfair, hence our complaints. 

I guess many would consider following a football team a waste of time, or posting 1000's of times on a forum a little pointless but yet you, we, people do it. 

If each time you came on here everyone who shared my opinion just called you a thick fucker because of things you've said in the past would find this fair? If everytime you went to work your boss or co-workers called you thick or selfish or ignorant each and every day no matter what you had or were doing. Would you find that fair? 

I think you are a thick, lonely little man. However I'm happy that you have the opportunity to defend yourself, or voice your opinions about me. You may well not care what I think of you, you may not care to respond but you do have the opportunity to do so, something Mario does not. 

The basis of my complaint to the BBC was Mario was being bullied, with no balance in opinions or opportunity for Mario to defend himself. 

I am an early 30's white male with a University education, I run my own compan, I live in Cheshire, with my  better half and my dogs, I have spent time and worked in Austrailia, America, South America, Asia & Africa. I have had a season ticket for over 20 years, I have been to 100's of away games. Irrelevant to my post, but relevant to my complaint, I'm not just a teenager who loves Balotelli.
I found the BBC's comments about him to be disgusting, unbalanced and bordering on racial bullying. 

You talk about embarrassing the club. You and your anti Mancini agenda were embarrassing. Forming your 'negative Mancini' opinions based on what the red tops were saying was embarrassing. Not being able to see that a manager who signed primarily attacking players would eventually play attacking football was embarrassing, being so vocal all over the Internet was & is embarrassing. 

Point being you make mistakes, I make mistakes but I, you are always afforded the opportunity to respond. 
You should post more.

Yes we need more people throwing insults on the forum.
It's the way he's done it - quality. Not even used the 'C' word - quality. Oh, and some of the best threads on this forum are the ones where insults are thrown. Makes it interesting.
 

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