Harry Kane

Goals ignored, assists ignored. What you after then. Someone who runs a lot?
He’s not ignored them. Someone suggested to him that Kane is the best because he scores the most goals but @Coatigan showed he doesn’t. And that we never rated Agüero as the best striker because of his goals, it was his all-round game.
 
He’s not ignored them. Someone suggested to him that Kane is the best because he scores the most goals but @Coatigan showed he doesn’t. And that we never rated Agüero as the best striker because of his goals, it was his all-round game.
Rating someone the best is an opinion. Can argue all day but can’t prove either way. We want a striker, we want the best of the best. Assists are ignored because that clearly proves he isn’t just a goal scoring machine. He’s an all round player because he does both. Unsure what’s being missed, you want him to take on 5 men, meg the last man and bang it in the top corner? As long as he scores that’s all I care about, which he would do for fun
 
No, let’s have it right. I’d rather give Torres a go than buy Kane, but I’d rather buy Mbappe, Haaland or Lewandowski than Kane. It’s not like the choice is Kane or nothing.

I'd be happy to have any of them strikers too but we are not exactly heavily linked with them. So if we are not in for them you would rather go without and play Torres?
 
No by saying give Torres a chance. It’s not football manager, we clearly aren’t in for Haaland or Mbappe.
Torres will be even better next season after a slow start but good numbers this season, so that wouldn’t be going backwards. Also it’s been said we were serious about Haaland for months, and Mbappe has a year left on his contract, both of them would suit us more than Kane and we’d be daft not to be seriously looking at them. They’re two I’d rather have than Kane.
 
So is Eric Dier!

Kane scored more and assisted more goals than Son in less PL appearances this season.

We also need a striker, not a wide forward.

I’d happily take Kane, Lewandowsi or Haaland this summer. They’re all world class strikers.

It’s fucking strange though how some people won’t acknowledge that Kane’s top class.
Again, we were discussing the performances against the big 6. It’s not absurd to compare his teammate to him.

I think Kane is a fine striker. From an outside perspective, do I think most British people have an wildly overrated view of him? Absolutely— but I understand that too. My issue is the value. As I have said multiple times...
 
Torres will be even better next season after a slow start but good numbers this season, so that wouldn’t be going backwards. Also it’s been said we were serious about Haaland for months, and Mbappe has a year left on his contract, both of them would suit us more than Kane and we’d be daft not to be seriously looking at them. They’re two I’d rather have than Kane.
You are hoping he will be better. I hope that, but you can’t guarantee it so no we aren’t improving until he shows it. Preferences are fine, if you can guarantee me Haaland will settle in the prem quick and commit a career with us I’d probably prefer that too. We can’t though so why not go for a proven prem goal scoring monster?
 
Kun was,for me,the best striker in the league. But not just because he hit numbers that occasionally topped the list. But because of his quality. Which is my point, and why I asked the question.

If we are saying kane is the best, because, numbers, others have had better numbers.

If it is other qualities, then that was the question. And is somewhat subjective.

I don’t think Kane is the best striker in the league solely because of his numbers.

He might not have the acceleration or dribbling ability Kun had but his hold up play, vision and creativity is top class.

I also think what made Kun so great was his longevity at the top. He never had the outrageous scoring season like Salah, Suarez or van Persie due to injuries, but he was a consistent goalscorer for a decade.

Kane is similar and has been one of the top strikers in the league for the last 5 years. I also think Kane has never had the luxury of being in the best attacking side in the league like Kun did.

Where Kane and Kun differ is their big game record which is a valid point. Kun consistently did it in the biggest of games, Kane’s record is decent but not outstanding. However, would Kun have been as lethal player for Spurs instead of City?

There’s every possibility than Kane could be even more lethal playing in a side like City with De Bruyne feeding him.
 
Goals ignored, assists ignored. What you after then. Someone who runs a lot?

I'm not ignoring goals. I'm pointing out other players score as many or more goals, when people use numbers to argue he is the best of the best and anyone that thinks otherwise is a moron.

I do think he is an excellent goal scorer, a great all round player. He lacks pace and he is also older than the profile the club would normally pay big for, but that's for them to worry about. I do also think he is not a game changer, in the sense he won't singlehandedly produce moments out of nothing that win games. Big or otherwise.

It is ok to rate Kane, and not think he is the right signing, particularly when that kind of money can but real top players.

As much as you get irritated with exaggerating his shortcomings and some of the apparent cliches, I respond to over the top bigging him up. For every 'he goes missing in big games' there is an equal and oppisite 'best striker in the league, guaranteed 40 goals'. Or 'he plays in a poor spurs side' whic incidentally reached a CL final, came close to winning the league and reached a cup final playing to his strengths.

The truth is probably somewhere in the middle, by the time you strip off the exaggeration on both sides. And even then, it is, for me, not good enough for the 100m+ it would cost.
 

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