Harry Kane

[gordondaviesmoustache]

He’s a curious fellow.

 

[daztrueblue91]

The only duty that any party to a contract has is to fulfil their side of it. If Spurs had made the promises that you claim they will have made, then they would now be in breach of contract if they refused to sell. So there would be no need for any talk about a gentleman's agreement.

From a legal standpoint you are correct but you are totally ignoring all the other aspects of job satisfaction.

it’s pretty obvious that Kane didn’t sign a new deal on the promise of being a top 8 side. He would have bought into the vision that Spurs can compete for major honours.

Kane will feel that he has done everything in his power to make that vision a reality and he has been let down by the club.

The fact is that Spurs are not contenders for any major trophy and they only have themselves to blame for their best player wanting to leave the club.

 

[InLevyITrust]

From a legal standpoint you are correct but you are totally ignoring all the other aspects of job satisfaction.

it’s pretty obvious that Kane didn’t sign a new deal on the promise of being a top 8 side. He would have bought into the vision that Spurs can compete for major honours.

Kane will feel that he has done everything in his power to make that vision a reality and he has been let down by the club.

The fact is that Spurs are not contenders for any major trophy and they only have themselves to blame for their best player wanting to leave the club.

I said I wouldn't comment again but fuck its hard not to.....

We have been in semis and finals and he clearly didn't do all he could, he simply failed to turn up, that's me now.... the relief has lifted lol.

As you were men.

 

[mccity]

Spurs are well within their rights not to sell him. It's a dick move if there was some kind of good faith agreement but technically a contract's a contract.

The problem for us is that we have no clue what that agreement was, and what's been reneged.

Maybe Levy has changed his mind and said he won't sell him (although there's enough evidence to say that's not the case)
Maybe he's changed his mind and demanded too great a fee (too great from City/Kane's perspective)
Maybe he's changed his mind and told Kane to wait longer than he would have liked.
Maybe he's not gone back on his word, and Kane is the one misbehaving here.
Maybe they've both simultaneously screwed each other.
Maybe there's less in this than we think. Maybe there's more.

We don't know. I understand it's a pretty boring and obvious statement, but we're all so in the dark it's just too difficult to know who is or isn't in the wrong here.

 

[Chi-town blues]

When you say you can't compete with our cash, what cash? FFP dictates our transfer budget like it dictates yours. You've seen the response from UEFA when they thought we'd overspent by €67.53c. They didn't want explanations, they wanted buckets of blood drained from our neck preferably.

Here's the difference fella.... Our owner cleared City's debts, & turned his investment into equity. Your owner like others, just loaded the debt on the club, with all the interest & those debts will be paid before you invest in your squad.

That's down to the way Spurs is run, NOT because our owner gives us billions to spend every summer. For the avoidance of doubt, allow me to repeat. Sheikh Mansour has NOT invested a penny into Manchester City Football Club since 2014. Everything we've spent, we've had to generate & have provided certified accounts to these effects.

This is why statements like 'We can't compete with your cash' pisses our fans off. What you've spouted is purely folklore bollocks mate. We merely have a better owner who is totally committed to our club, & not just looking to fatten it up for a future sale. Our owner wants City to be a totally self sufficient success, on & off the pitch.

The fact is that we're one of the best run clubs in world football. What you're seeing now isn't City just spunking hundreds of millions because we can, it's come about as a result of us NOT being able to afford Sanchez, Pogba & Maguire who all ended up at ManUre, who COULD afford the fees being asked. Much of the money we're spending now, is from money we've refused to spend in previous transfer windows, so was in the bank as an ever increasing transfer war chest.

Our management team would rather us go without, than buy a substandard player, just to fill the squad. Where we are now has been over 13 years in the planning, & the scary thing is, there's much much more to come. We're a well run club, not a rich man's vanity project plaything that he spunks his billions on to make him look like a big shot.

THIS is what makes the clubs who keep creating more FFP barriers to stop us, ever more sick with jealousy.

amen!

 

[InLevyITrust]

Spurs are well within their rights not to sell him. It's a dick move if there was some kind of good faith agreement but technically a contract's a contract.

The problem for us is that we have no clue what that agreement was, and what's been reneged.

Maybe Levy has changed his mind and said he won't sell him (although there's enough evidence to say that's not the case)
Maybe he's changed his mind and demanded too great a fee (too great from City/Kane's perspective)
Maybe he's changed his mind and told Kane to wait longer than he would have liked.
Maybe he's not gone back on his word, and Kane is the one misbehaving here.
Maybe they've both simultaneously screwed each other.
Maybe there's less in this than we think. Maybe there's more.

We don't know. I understand it's a pretty boring and obvious statement, but we're all so in the dark it's just too difficult to know who is or isn't in the wrong here.

You seem level headed, whatever the reason in your opinion, should the captain of England behaved in the way that he has?

 

[mccity]

You seem level headed, whatever the reason in your opinion, should the captain of England behaved in the way that he has?

Thanks.

Probably not. But then this is my point, we don't really know what's going on. Kane could be anywhere from extremely unprofessional to within his rights to act out.

If for example Levy has led Kane on a merry dance for an entire season and then turned around 3 days before he was due back to training and told him something's changed (whatever that may be), then maybe Kane decided to go nuclear not just to force a move but to make a clear statement that he's not to be messed with.

But it's also possible Levy has said he's happy to sell, for a fee City are willing to pay, but Kane just needs to wait it out. And Kane's just lashed out.

I'm with Gary Neville. Kane is being very unprofessional. But he's considered a very professional guy, so you have to wonder what's set him off.


I'd guess this. The answer is in whether this is Charlie's doing, or Harry's. If it's Charlie who's prompted Harry, then this could be as sly as a premeditated action by Harry which has caught Tottenham off guard. This would be bad.

If it's Harry who's opted for action, then I'd say Levy has done something to tremendously annoy him. Although with both ideas, they're just guesses. Again, we don't know.


I'd say it's all vague enough for City fans to sympathise with Kane and Spurs fans (and basically all non-City fans outside of Arsenal) to condemn him.

 

[InLevyITrust]

Thanks.

Probably not. But then this is my point, we don't really know what's going on. Kane could be anywhere from extremely unprofessional to within his rights to act out.

If for example Levy has led Kane on a merry dance for an entire season and then turned around 3 days before he was due back to training and told him something's changed (whatever that may be), then maybe Kane decided to go nuclear not just to force a move but to make a clear statement that he's not to be messed with.

But it's also possible Levy has said he's happy to sell, for a fee City are willing to pay, but Kane just needs to wait it out. And Kane's just lashed out.

I'm with Gary Neville. Kane is being very unprofessional. But he's considered a very professional guy, so you have to wonder what's set him off.


I'd guess this. The answer is in whether this is Charlie's doing, or Harry's. If it's Charlie who's prompted Harry, then this could be as sly as a premeditated action by Harry which has caught Tottenham off guard. This would be bad.

If it's Harry who's opted for action, then I'd say Levy has done something to tremendously annoy him. Although with both ideas, they're just guesses. Again, we don't know.


I'd say it's all vague enough for City fans to sympathise with Kane and Spurs fans (and basically all non-City fans outside of Arsenal) to condemn him.

A player, under contract, there is no reason not to return to the club, even Berbatov returned and trained, he may have refused to play but at least he had the balls to return.

 

[himalayan_blues]

I still recall the filling of dead air when the United wankers invaded the stadium against Liverpool.

We had Keane and Neville saying Grealish and Kane would make United unstoppable and must do everything they can to sign them.

What about messi mate ? We need to get excited again....
PLEASE UPDATE US...

 

[p.taker]

Once we sign Harry Kane it's going to be like bringing a bazooka to a knight fight. We are going to straight up murder the league this season. Our only competition will be records from past seasons begging us to have mercy on them.

 

[InLevyITrust]

Once we sign Harry Kane it's going to be like bringing a bazooka to a knight fight. We are going to straight up murder the league this season. Our only competition will be records from past seasons begging us to have mercy on them.

If he signs I totally agree.

 

[slick]

It doesn't matter who owns Etihad, every contract we currently have is classed as being at market value by both the FA and UEFA.

It's idiots coming along on the back of what they read on social media like Knights in shining armor with no idea what they're talking about that make me laugh.

 

[yeseye]

I have no idea, but they own it.

 

[p.taker]

If he signs I totally agree.

This is a live view of Aitor "Txiki" Begiristain Mujika negotiating with Daniel Fucking Levy.

 

[Coatigan]

Harsh, but true. I never got this Levy is an ace negotiator because ‘he is well hard’ shite. What has it got Spurs? A couple of runner up spots and ‘stick the tail on the donkey’ approach when it comes to picking managers.

Levy is nothing more than a posturing popinjay.

Depends on the context. In a 'what has it got spurs' context, other than the money Levy looked for, nothing.

In terms of 'will we have to pay over what we expect to, if we want to land the player, because he will be difficult' then yes, he is well 'ard.

 

[Coatigan]

Surely it does not matter what City or Pep or you or Charlie Kane think Kane is worth. What matters is what Levy thinks he is worth.

And it is not clear that, despite what you lot say, that Levy is a willing seller. In the press he clearly says he is not.

I have doubts that this deal can go through. The differences seem massive.

I don't disagree actually. I argued as much not that long ago.

But Kane going on strike this early on with nearly a month left changes things, bigtime. There will be only so long Levy can hold out, and a midway compromise will be pushed and most likely reached. Kane still has a few cards to play as well, including a transfer request and public dissatisfaction.

Levy isn't now negotiating hard against one party, but against two.

The gap may still prove to be too much, but he gets nothing out of that now. And the other two know it. Where typically his leverage gets stronger the closer it gets to the deadline, that isn't the case here.

I feel it has got too far now not to happen, its own momentum might be enough to see it through.

 

[Coatigan]

I’m confused as to why we would leave a squad space free assuming what you say is correct.

either way judging by your past posts (Sterling right, evans wrong) I hope your info is false as we need Kane more than grealish imo

We have no free squad spaces now. Grealish took Aguero's spot.

 

[Coatigan]

Guess they could, but doubt they'd do it except in an absolute emergency. Sandler seems the more likely option, if it came to it.

Sandler, if it came to that, does nothing to free up a squad space though. Finances, maybe if one is sold for significant money.

 

[Coatigan]

If the only way to get Kane is to sell Bernardo and Laporte, I’d do it tbh. Ake is left footed, we’d just have to give him more of an opportunity. And Sandler seems more than capable of being 4th choice to me. Not ideal. But I’d rather have Kane and Sandler than Laporte and nobody.

I personally think we would suffer more without Laporte (unless replaced by a proven CB) than without Kane. Over a whole season.

And not just Kane btw, any new no.9, including Haaland.

 

[Coatigan]

One to keep an eye on, methinks.

So is that how the ITK game works then, one should only post things people want to hear.