Has the BBC become a Tory tool?

[mattcity5]

If you stub your toe you can’t fairly compare that to the holocaust, not without belittling the suffering that took place, no.

If you see a government building camps, making people wear badges if they have a certain religious belief, you be on firmer ground.

Somewhere in between lies Lineker’s comment. I think the current situation is a stubbed toe. You think it is at the other end of the scale. I don’t agree, it’s that simple.

And the video? How does that fit with your view of things?

 

[Chris B]

With a visa ? Tell me what visa is this refugees should have and where they apply for their visa,

I think they can apply for a visa at any British embassy or online. It’s unlikely they’ll get awarded one, but then the British government isn’t obliged to operate an open borders policy.

 

[blueparrot]

I have just given you the link to the documents these people are entitled to and which would allow them legal entry via a port of entry in the UK mate.

Yes but as I said it didn’t tell me, as far as I could see how exactly they could get them, it just said 73 states. I assume if it was easy the 70 % of genuine cases that we have been granting asylum to would have them, or at least some would.

 

[ganganvince]

No it isn’t, they are asylum seekers. Seeking asylum isn’t illegal it doesn’t break any law. Detaining without a hearing ,thats illegal.

Not until they claim asylum

 

[blueinsa]

Yes but as I said it didn’t tell me, as far as I could see how exactly they could get them, it just said 73 states. I assume if it was easy the 70 % of genuine cases that we have been granting asylum to would have them, or at least some would.

I read it that you simply apply to the authorities in that country.

 

[OccupiedPalestineBlues]

Straight to racism. Ive lived in a white majority country for 3 years out of the last 14. The vast majority of my friends are not the same race as me, nor is my wife. Being frank i couldnt really care if the UK lets "these asylum seekers" into the UK or not. When I return ill be living in an ivory tower and it wont impact me in the slightest. Personally I find it all funny for the most part. I particularly like the guys ive met in the middle east who moved to the US/ Canada etc as asylum seekers, then as soon as they get citizenship jump on a plane to the UAE etc and get an expat job and then regularly visit the country they had to leave because their life was in danger, but never seem to visit the country that granted them asylum.... seems they just wanted a better passport but hey ho.

I have not a clue what you’re on about, you’re rambling but I hope you feel better for getting it off your chest.
Now have a nice cup of tea, write yourself a note about not drinking in the daytime and sellotape it to the door of your drinks cupboard, then go and have a little nap ;-)

 

[blueparrot]

I think they can apply for a visa at any British embassy or online. It’s unlikely they’ll get awarded one, but then the British government isn’t obliged to operate an open borders policy.

You don’t understand what the difference is between migration and asylum / refugees do you ? You also don’t understand the difference between the UK obligations for economic migrants and international obligations for refugees. Don’t blame you the government don’t seem to either.

 

[Mr Fraser]

No i won’t tell them. Why would I? They at least have the direct experience to make that point, so I don’t consider it offensive coming from them. Of course, being a victim of the holocaust doesn’t make you right about everything.

Because you stated that to compare the holocaust to the current uk position was offensive etc. . Everyone is entitled to their opinion. But to form a different opinion if person A states X as a fact and person B states X as a fact does not seem logical to me. Alternative facts ???

 

[west didsblue]

If you stub your toe you can’t fairly compare that to the holocaust, not without belittling the suffering that took place, no.

If you see a government building camps, making people wear badges if they have a certain religious belief, you be on firmer ground.

Somewhere in between lies Lineker’s comment. I think the current situation is a stubbed toe. You think it is at the other end of the scale. I don’t agree, it’s that simple.

Why did you compare Juergen Klopp to the holocaust then?

 

[blueparrot]

I read it that you simply apply to the authorities in that country.

I’ll read again but, assuming somebody in say Afghanistan wanted one would they have to turn up at a state that issued them as a stateless person. Or in writing, online wasn’t clear, to me at least.