Hillsborough - The Search for Truth

In_Good_Kompany said:
And talking of pricks .... how about an apology to one and all.

Or you could come down from your self placed perch above everyone else?
That person he's referring to told us we were wrong about the conclusion of the Taylor Enquiry and that he knew for a fact it was the behaviour of the fans that caused it. He called us closed-minded.

Whether he apologises or not is up to him. I suspect he still thinks he's right and that everyone else who has actually seen the documents now is wrong. If he's genuinely changed his mind then that's all he needs to say.

There are plenty of people who have accused the Hillsborough groups of having a typical Scouse victim's mentality over the years. Well it seems the scousers were right and those people were wrong. I hope they change their minds as well.

The best outcome of this is the hope that the lies of the police as expressed through The Sun, are finally exposed.
 
In_Good_Kompany said:
Wonder if Boris Johnson will apologise for this?

Despite todays findings, scousers do still have a victim mentality regarding ANYTHING, no matter how small or trivial. Its in their blood.

Thoughts are one thing, saying is another. Bad move I'm afraid.
 
So are we assuming that in no way were any Lpool fans pissed up, none tried to enter the ground without a ticket and they all behaved impeccably outside the ground before kick off ?
 
Were the 164 police statements altered by those making the statements or was this done afterwards? What were the consequential actions taken against those police officers (or threats made) that refused to change their statements if they were made to alter them.
 
Thoughts are one thing, saying is another. Bad move I'm afraid.

One thing thats been learnt from the last 23 years is that the truth should be put out there straight away and not covered up.

Glad the families are getting somewhere but lets not forget that scousers are not complete saints when it comes to footballing matters
 
Going back to the government being blameless, if Thatcher was told SYP's behaviour was "depressingly familiar", how can there be no blame on them?

What did they do to change that behaviour other than encourage Dukinfield to resign? Why did they not bring about prosecutions etc?

Big cover up all the way to the top in my opinion.
 
Happy Feet said:
So are we assuming that in no way were any Lpool fans pissed up, none tried to enter the ground without a ticket and they all behaved impeccably outside the ground before kick off ?
the inquiry has completely exonerated the liverpool fans from any of the above, so yes, this has been discounted as a reason for the disaster
 
Happy Feet said:
So are we assuming that in no way were any Lpool fans pissed up, none tried to enter the ground without a ticket and they all behaved impeccably outside the ground before kick off ?

The Taylor report concluded that whilst there were elements as you describe above, they were no different to any other matchday and therefore had no bearing whatsoever on the events that transpired. If pissed up fans were the problem, there would have been deaths and crushes at every football match in that era.

Stop blaming the fans, the truth is now out. FFS.
 
The sad thing is, it has taken 23 years for the truth to be made public. But for all of those 23 years all of us who used to attend football back then already knew the truth.

Im pleased an apology has been made and feel its not just an apology to the families of the 96 and the people of Liverpool but to all of us who by association suffered the vilification of the establishment and the media just because we were football fans
 

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