Hillsborough - The Search for Truth

[stonerblue]

Really I am ashamed of posters on here still able to qualify what happened by blaming it on the fans, even after today, it beggars belief

unfortunately though I have had it at first hand today
talking to two colleagues, both Liverpool fans, about justice at last and what should be the next step when the secretary interrupted and repeated the age old lies, "it was the drunken Liverpool fans who caused the deaths, always was always will be.
She's supposed to be a football fan as she still thinks its the shit the media spouted all those years ago. Her attitude was quite shocking, even for the bitterest rag, i really didn't think they could stoop that low.

I've just got home after having a drink with a scouse fan who was there that day. We parted with a handshake. Proper fans.

 

[MCFC-alan88]

Some of the idiots in this thread, I actually wonder if they can be called people at all.

Sometimes, you should just take a step back from your prejudices and mistaken beliefs and look at what's in front of you, take an hour and just read through what's been released today and come back on here and look through half the shit you've spouted and see if you can understand why everyone thinks you're a dumbarse.

 

[whyalwaysLee]

I also believed that fans turned up without tickets and caused a panic at the turnstiles where people were getting crushed.

I remember going to lots of games throughout the 80's and early 90's, and plenty of us were on the jib, and we even climbed into pens that were full, coz thats where all the craic and singing was. I got crushed loads of times including goodison park where a lad from my school was carried over the barriers to waiting police coz he'd blacked out from lack of oxygen.

When Hillsbourough occured it was only 4 years after Heysel and many rival supporters considered that Liverpool fans were once again up to no good, and this was also fueled by the media. I would like to apologise for jumping to conclusions and for being so naive.

The senior officers who created this cover up, should be brought to task and charged with perverting the course of justice. Regardless of how old they now are.

 

[Anonymous]

Twats are twats, no matter who they support.

Yet to meet a united fan that isn't a twat, and I've met a lot.

If you are born a raging twat, the chances are you'll become a united fan.

Probably the most nonsense i've ever read on here. One of my best mates supports United and he's a diamond, and i'm sure many others will be able to say the same about their respective friends. I know a few absolute bell ends who are City fans, United fans and indeed Oldham fans too, just like I know some absolute belting lads who support those clubs.

You can't have read very many posts then. :-)

 

[TheMightyQuinn]

This isn't anything like 'justice'.

The filth and tories rock up 25 years later and just go 'yeah we lied, sorry' and that's that.

 

[Blue Punter]

Really I am ashamed of posters on here still able to qualify what happened by blaming it on the fans, even after today, it beggars belief

unfortunately though I have had it at first hand today
talking to two colleagues, both Liverpool fans, about justice at last and what should be the next step when the secretary interrupted and repeated the age old lies, "it was the drunken Liverpool fans who caused the deaths, always was always will be.
She's supposed to be a football fan as she still thinks its the shit the media spouted all those years ago. Her attitude was quite shocking, even for the bitterest rag, i really didn't think they could stoop that low.

Similar thing with me. I read the findings of the report and was discussing it with someone else, when someone chipped in. Bloke in question has a huge superiority complex and gives the impression that football fans in general are some sort of underclass.

He was banging on about mobs of drunken, ticketless fans being the cause. He even resorted to mentioning Heysel to back up his flawed argument. Me and the other lad told him to go home, read the report & watch the news as he may say something today that he'll regret in the morning.

The reason the police & press believe they can get away with such a huge cover up, is because there are so many stupid people who fall for it time and again.

 

[mcmanus]

It's scary that corruption could run so deep and far in the England of 1989 plus still be covered up for so long. 164 altered police statements seems to me it was from top to bottom.

It's only just started as well. Lot's of heads are going to roll. How such people can be so corrupt is mind-boggling to me, getting even worse as more facts are coming out. What a pathetic attempt of an apology by Kelvin MacKensie, talk about timing.
Does it say did what she knew about it all?

 

[Cellarite]

I've spent years thinking that Liverpool fans were equally to blame with the police but having watched the documentary, I'm appalled at how ignorant I've been for all these years. The truth is that the police fucked up royal with thousands of fans who had turned up far earlier than I ever arrive at a turnstyle. I hope the people of Merseyside get their justice.

It dawned on me in the build up to today that I had believed some (not all) of the lies about Liverpool fans. I posted this shortly after watching the ITV documentary last night.

 

[bluemanc]

Reading that report is like a horror story.

I saw a Police Officer with a flat cap. I presumed he was of higher rank and I said to him that I was a senior surgeon. I asked him to give me a Police Officer and we would go around all the casualties and I would tell him who needed urgent treatment and who could be left until later. He did not reply and turned away to talk to someone else. I then went to try and help where I could

I'm not going to quote anymore because this is one of 100's of failings like this.
The scale of the cover up with the media pushing it is incredible.
Yorkshire Police used the same hiding the truth tactics as they used at Barnsley when we had trouble their,liars then liars now.

 

[mackenzie]

This isn't anything like 'justice'.

The filth and tories rock up 25 years later and just go 'yeah we lied, sorry' and that's that.

To be fair, the ones representing them today weren't responsible.

I don't even think Thatcher or her cronies at the time tried to cover up anything either. More a misplaced sense of believing what they were told by the Police, coupled with a complete detachment from the match going experience at that time of the vast majority of fans.

I doubt they even cared to be honest.