Hillsborough - The Search for Truth

SWP's back said:
JoeMercer'sWay said:
SWP's back said:
They are self pitying hence all the candlelit vigil stuff. It's said often enough on here. Not that it's anything to do with Hillsborough mind.

Maybe Malg needs to give his head a wobble then.

-- Wed Sep 12, 2012 8:03 pm --


He didn't write tht piece you refer to though and Durham is a raging lefty.


this apparently...

Not his words ffs.

-- Wed Sep 12, 2012 8:06 pm --

The cookie monster said:
An absolute fucking joke post from a mod there.
Why mate when he didn't fucking write it.

How can you say he said it? Does no one look anything up anymore?

Although Johnson had not written the piece (journalist Simon Heffer later said he "had a hand" in it), he accepted responsibility for its publication

"he accepted responsibility for its publication", nothing else is relevant.
 
JoeMercer'sWay said:
SWP's back said:
JoeMercer'sWay said:
this apparently...

Not his words ffs.

-- Wed Sep 12, 2012 8:06 pm --

The cookie monster said:
An absolute fucking joke post from a mod there.
Why mate when he didn't fucking write it.

How can you say he said it? Does no one look anything up anymore?

Although Johnson had not written the piece (journalist Simon Heffer later said he "had a hand" in it), he accepted responsibility for its publication

"he accepted responsibility for its publication", nothing else is relevant.
Don't be such an idiot. It's like Cameron accepting responsibility today for the mistakes of the government 25 years ago.

It's bollocks, he didn't write it and claiming he did is incorrect.
 
The article, unsigned but which would have been written under Mr Johnson's direction, repeats the allegation made by The Sun 15 years ago that "drunken fans" might also have been to blame for Hillsborough.

according to The Independent.
 
The cookie monster said:
So why was he sent to Liverpool to apologise by Michael howard?
Why do you think? He was the Editor of the Spectator and the Tories had to be seen to distance themselves from it.

But it does not make him responsible for the article or for writing the words. You're a bright bloke, you know people are made to apologise for things in the public arena that they aren't responsible for all the time.
 
SWP's back said:
JoeMercer'sWay said:
SWP's back said:
Not his words ffs.

-- Wed Sep 12, 2012 8:06 pm --


Why mate when he didn't fucking write it.

How can you say he said it? Does no one look anything up anymore?

"he accepted responsibility for its publication", nothing else is relevant.
Don't be such an idiot. It's like Cameron accepting responsibility today for the mistakes of the government 25 years ago.

It's bollocks, he didn't write it and claiming he did is incorrect.

Don't be such an idiot. No it isn't, nowhere near close.
 
mat said:
Conservative PM makes a statement blaming the police but conveniently forgets about Thatchers demonising of football supporters at the time and her probable influence over the police statements and that vile newspaper report.

Lets get a few things straight here, this was the most appalling tragedy and the cover up made it worse, but for many years previously the behaviour of British Football fans had been an appalling a stain on the nation, the game was dying on it's feet, families were afraid to go to games and violence was rife, and nothing was changing (I remember being chased by a load of Stanley knife yielding scoucers and a coming close to death in Stoke) So don't anyone post this rosy picture and turn this into a class thing, as a collective we behaved as animals and were treated as such, the only surprise is that this had not happened earlier, I remember (I think it was Wolves or Leicester) where I thought that if people got out alive from the tiny section we were in it would have been a miracle such was the crush, as for getting in without tickets it was rife at nearly every ground, so no one actually knew how many were actually in there, we have come a long way since then
 
mancityvstoke said:
The article, unsigned but which would have been written under Mr Johnson's direction, repeats the allegation made by The Sun 15 years ago that "drunken fans" might also have been to blame for Hillsborough.

according to The Independent.

journalist Simon Heffer later said he "had a hand" in it

Boris also stated when he left the Spectator that he had nothing to do with it.<br /><br />-- Wed Sep 12, 2012 8:14 pm --<br /><br />
JoeMercer'sWay said:
SWP's back said:
JoeMercer'sWay said:
"he accepted responsibility for its publication", nothing else is relevant.
Don't be such an idiot. It's like Cameron accepting responsibility today for the mistakes of the government 25 years ago.

It's bollocks, he didn't write it and claiming he did is incorrect.

Don't be such an idiot. No it isn't, nowhere near close.
Of course it is.
 
SWP's back said:
mancityvstoke said:
The article, unsigned but which would have been written under Mr Johnson's direction, repeats the allegation made by The Sun 15 years ago that "drunken fans" might also have been to blame for Hillsborough.

according to The Independent.

journalist Simon Heffer later said he "had a hand" in it

Boris also stated when he left the Spectator that he had nothing to do with it.

-- Wed Sep 12, 2012 8:14 pm --

JoeMercer'sWay said:
SWP's back said:
Don't be such an idiot. It's like Cameron accepting responsibility today for the mistakes of the government 25 years ago.

It's bollocks, he didn't write it and claiming he did is incorrect.

Don't be such an idiot. No it isn't, nowhere near close.
Of course it is.

it's not, unless Simon Heffer wrote it 25 years ago, which is impossible.
 
SWP's back said:
The cookie monster said:
So why was he sent to Liverpool to apologise by Michael howard?
Why do you think? He was the Editor of the Spectator and the Tories had to be seen to distance themselves from it.

But it does not make him responsible for the article or for writing the words. You're a bright bloke, you know people are made to apologise for things in the public arena that they aren't responsible for all the time.
He will have given the go ahead for them quotes to be printed am I right?
 

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