Hostage situation in Sydney

[Bigga]

Yes ..... but it isn't a Christian or Jew involved in this situation .... it's a muslim.

So that makes them a bigger bastard than others using religion to reinforce their bastardised views?

It makes islam relevant to this thread and situation ....

That's where years of media bombardment takes its hold on you; Islam is not relevant here. This man's weak mindedness or mental illness is the cause here.

My daughter is Muslim and is disgusted and, too, thinks he should be shot! She's 'peaceful', too.

 

[moomba]

Seems a right charmer this bloke. Written letters to the families of dead soldiers calling them child murderers and the like. Also facing charges of conspiracy to commit murder of his ex wife as well as indecent and sexual assault.

 

[Gelsons Dad]

So that makes them a bigger bastard than others using religion to reinforce their bastardised views?

It makes islam relevant to this thread and situation ....

That's where years of media bombardment takes its hold on you; Islam is not relevant here. This man's weak mindedness or mental illness is the cause here.

My daughter is Muslim and is disgusted and, too, thinks he should be shot! She's 'peaceful', too.

Well this is where we all need to clear our minds and reassess what this and the other on-going acts represent.

If the perpetrator believes he is acting on behalf of a cause, in this case Islam. And many other thousands of people believe that also to be true. What authority do we or others with different views have to deny their belief?

It's not the odd nutter anymore. It is a huge global movement. Are they all misguided in their interpretation or are they the enlightened ones? Is this the true interpretation of their faith?

I no longer feel comfortable excusing these acts as those of lone nutters, rather I believe they are redefining Islam and unless the moderate majority take back their faith they will eventually find themselves in the minority.

 

[foxy]

It makes islam relevant to this thread and situation ....

That's where years of media bombardment takes its hold on you; Islam is not relevant here. This man's weak mindedness or mental illness is the cause here.

My daughter is Muslim and is disgusted and, too, thinks he should be shot! She's 'peaceful', too.

Well this is where we all need to clear our minds and reassess what this and the other on-going acts represent.

If the perpetrator believes he is acting on behalf of a cause, in this case Islam. And many other thousands of people believe that also to be true. What authority do we or others with different views have to deny their belief?

It's not the odd nutter anymore. It is a huge global movement. Are they all misguided in their interpretation or are they the enlightened ones? Is this the true interpretation of their faith?

I no longer feel comfortable excusing these acts as those of lone nutters, rather I believe they are redefining Islam and unless the moderate majority take back their faith they will eventually find themselves in the minority.

There will still be lefty Russel Brand loving Guardian readers throffing at the mouth despite what you've said being correct. I don't think there's contempt for Islam as a whole (apart from bigots) but more contempt for moderates who are failing to speak up against extremism or as we've seen in the UK moderates not report extremism as OP Trojan has discovered. The situation is so delicate in the UK because there are massive cultural differences and problems with integration which causes friction in light of such events.

 

[MCFCTrick]

So that makes them a bigger bastard than others using religion to reinforce their bastardised views?

It makes islam relevant to this thread and situation ....

That's where years of media bombardment takes its hold on you; Islam is not relevant here. This man's weak mindedness or mental illness is the cause here.

My daughter is Muslim and is disgusted and, too, thinks he should be shot! She's 'peaceful', too.

The fact the guy is a muslim, asking for ISIS flags .....makes it pretty much relevant to that cult.

And for how long can they be 'defended' with the 'mental illness' or 'acting alone' tag for committing these acts in Islam's name? It is such defending that helps their cause no end ..... well done.

 

[Cheesy]

Fucking hell! I didn't realise we had so many Special Ops personnel trained in hostage release on here :-O

 

[Sergi0 Na5r1]

There will still be lefty Russel Brand loving Guardian readers throffing at the mouth despite what you've said being correct. I don't think there's contempt for Islam as a whole (apart from bigots) but more contempt for moderates who are failing to speak up against extremism or as we've seen in the UK moderates not report extremism as OP Trojan has discovered. The situation is so delicate in the UK because there are massive cultural differences and problems with integration which causes friction in light of such events.

Irrelevant if the nutters don't even consider moderates as even being of the same faith. They have started to execute anyone that opposes them in iraq regardless of their sect or tribe.

 

[BlueHammer85]

Stupid cow on Sky showing live scenes and laughing at the bomb disposal mans outfit.

 

[Cheesy]

Shit! Here we go!

Someone getting CPR.

 

[TangerineSteve17]

I hope they got him and nobody else was injured :/