How do we resolve the Brexit mess?

City Hobgoblin said:
Starmer needs to grow a pair, educate the ‘Red Wall’ troglodytes, and reverse this fiasco.
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A sure vote winner if he does. Not only winning the red wall racist votes, but also uniting labour behind something the entire party (apart from about 3 hard left loons) agrees with.
 
Cheadle_hulmeBlue said:
https://out.reddit.com/t3_vr1kqn?app_name=ios&token=AQAAfmXDYnWisaANLdVnHEvBSaNrSusTyHBCt-LsGS6YtbiditiL&url=https://www.thelondoneconomic.com/politics/sir-keir-starmer-vows-no-freedom-of-movement-under-plan-to-make-brexit-work-328313/

Refreshing to hear.
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IT would be refreshing to hear brexiteers admit its not really working and that they actually do now understand the issues that were warned about before the vote. It would be nice since most remainers, like me, didnt want it but now here and we all have to work towards it.

All I hear though is that Brexit has been "done".

What the actual fuck is that about.
 
Gorton_Tubster said:
IT would be refreshing to hear brexiteers admit its not really working and that they actually do now understand the issues that were warned about before the vote. It would be nice since most remainers, like me, didnt want it but now here and we all have to work towards it.

All I hear though is that Brexit has been "done".

What the actual fuck is that about.
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Not going to get mea culpa from those who voted Leave, but perhaps now the Omerta can be broken and politicians can actually attribute much of the current mess to Brexit. The country is in need of counselling and speaking about it now might stop more mistakes being made. Reopening the conversation will also help people appreciate that Brexit is far from done.
 
Gabriel said:
Not going to get mea culpa from those who voted Leave, but perhaps now the Omerta can be broken and politicians can actually attribute much of the current mess to Brexit. The country is in need of counselling and speaking about it now might stop more mistakes being made. Reopening the conversation will also help people appreciate that Brexit is far from done.
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Somebody at some point is going to have to be honest with the population as a whole. “COVID and the Ukraine war has put severe pressure on our economy which will continue for years. And leaving the EU, particularly the single market/customs union, has made it incredibly difficult to achieve the economic growth required to get out of the mess.”

Surely it isn’t hard to say it without triggering the defence mechanisms of those responsible too much.
 
Didsbury Dave said:
Somebody at some point is going to have to be honest with the population as a whole. “COVID and the Ukraine war has put severe pressure on our economy which will continue for years. And leaving the EU, particularly the single market/customs union, has made it incredibly difficult to achieve the economic growth required to get out of the mess.”

Surely it isn’t hard to say it without triggering the defence mechanisms of those responsible too much.
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COVID affected the world and the war in Ukraine is having an even greater impact on countries closer to the fighting. Food, energy, and fuel prices aren’t coming down anytime soon, and there must be open discussion now.

Johnson’s going means the right have won the war but they won’t be in place to settle the peace. If the next prime minister doesn’t adopt a more conciliatory approach, however, the mess will get messier.
 
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