How do we resolve the Brexit mess?

After all the years of constantly seeing videos on social media - Farage heckling in the EU Parliament , how the EU are forming a army, how the EU is to blame for immigration and all the other constant stream of other lies - it’s nice to see the chickens come home to roost

I firmly believe we will be back in within 5 years
 
After all the years of constantly seeing videos on social media - Farage heckling in the EU Parliament , how the EU are forming a army, how the EU is to blame for immigration and all the other constant stream of other lies - it’s nice to see the chickens come home to roost

I firmly believe we will be back in within 5 years
Single Market, maybe, but we need rid of this government first and to see how far their law breaking goes and what reputation we have left as a result.
 
After all the years of constantly seeing videos on social media - Farage heckling in the EU Parliament , how the EU are forming a army, how the EU is to blame for immigration and all the other constant stream of other lies - it’s nice to see the chickens come home to roost

I firmly believe we will be back in within 5 years

as much as I think it would be for the best there's not a chance
 
You said you paid no heed to what anyone said when making your own choices - my question was simply if a party was promising lots of stuff some of which would benefit you are yours would you really just ignore it all in the belief that you and you alone are best placed to get the best outcome for yourself?

I mean ignore say promises on the NHS and pensions and you get on in a well paid job but then your old mum needs treatment and the only option is you to pay for her to go private at a cost of say £50k - then when she gets out she has other needs but hey the state shouldn't be helping there so you "top up" her pension to the tune of say £200 pw - see how small state fend for yourself I'm alright Jack is only a good choice for the top 1 or 2% of people who live in this country?
You have to keep the emotions out of politics it makes no difference whether it is my mum or any one else’s. When in opposition it is so easy to say what is wrong with the ruling party. When in power it’s a whole lot different As regards the NHS it’s all about Cost Benefit Analysis. If it’s a relative and £50k of the latest drug would keep them alive for an extra couple of months I would say go for it. That £50 k from a neutral persons point of view could provide much more to other patients. So hard decisions have to be made . There is a lot of waste in the NHS, it’s the biggest employer in the World outside the Chinese Army so there are always going to be huge demands for its services. History has shown that Governments are not very good when spending other people’s money. However there will always be plenty of people out there who are quite happy to tell them where to get some more from as long as it’s not from them.
 
Single Market, maybe, but we need rid of this government first and to see how far their law breaking goes and what reputation we have left as a result.
And by the time the Public Enquiry has finished in around 2035 we will all be dead and had about 3 changes in Government and the merry go round can start all over again
 
You see your jumping to conclusions. I have never said I do or did. I have just made sure through life that because whatever happens, I can do very little about it so I have put myself in a position it will have very little person impact. Then I don’t need to throw a tirade of abuse at it when whoever's Plan doesn’t work out.
You mean you've got money.
 
And by the time the Public Enquiry has finished in around 2035 we will all be dead and had about 3 changes in Government and the merry go round can start all over again
I think there will be a public backlash when people are struggling in the new year.

That will start the next phase of the political cycle.
 
Do you honestly think that is going to be delivered. Who wouldn’t vote for it. The crunch always comes how is it going to be paid for. I could be really selfish and say I am at an age I will no longer be paying income tax so I can get all the benefits with no extra cost to me.
Please don’t say the rich will pay for everything, they won’t. It’s the poor sods on PAYE who always pick up the bill
Let’s borrow the money, won’t be paid back in my time and I have no kids to pick up the burden
But I am a realist and the rest of Society are just not prepared to pay to live in your so called Utopia
Another smug pensioner?
 
You have to keep the emotions out of politics it makes no difference whether it is my mum or any one else’s. When in opposition it is so easy to say what is wrong with the ruling party. When in power it’s a whole lot different As regards the NHS it’s all about Cost Benefit Analysis. If it’s a relative and £50k of the latest drug would keep them alive for an extra couple of months I would say go for it. That £50 k from a neutral persons point of view could provide much more to other patients. So hard decisions have to be made . There is a lot of waste in the NHS, it’s the biggest employer in the World outside the Chinese Army so there are always going to be huge demands for its services. History has shown that Governments are not very good when spending other people’s money. However there will always be plenty of people out there who are quite happy to tell them where to get some more from as long as it’s not from them.
Who's paying for your triple locked pension?
 
You mean you've got money.
And what’s wrong with that if I have, as long as it has been obtained by Lawful means and been fully taxed. What’s this obsession that if people have a few quid it should be taken off them and given to a Party of any persuasion on the thought they can spend it better than I could. If we have that system in place we may as well live under Communism. The State needs wealth creation in the Private Sector in order to fund the Public Sector. Without an incentive to work hard and generate the wealth we would just all sit on our arse all day and do as little as possible.
 

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