Dave Ewing's Back 'eader
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I'm leaving this Brexit mess on Sir Starmer's desk and I shall have a look in a few months or so to see if he's done owt with it!
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How do we resolve the Brexit mess?
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jazzy
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He has said the UK won't rejoin in his lifetimeI'm leaving this Brexit mess on Sir Starmer's desk and I shall have a look in a few months or so to see if he's done owt with it!
Dave Ewing's Back 'eader
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That sounds very familiar in a football context. Didn't some old git say that City wouldn't whatever in his lifetime? He's either gonna commit hara-kiri or he's fulfilling what is to be expected of politicians - he's a lyin' bastard!He has said the UK won't rejoin in his lifetime
Alan Harper's Tash
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We don’t need to rejoin to reenter the single market and customs’ union. :-)He has said the UK won't rejoin in his lifetime
mexico1970
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That sounds very familiar in a football context. Didn't some old git say that City wouldn't whatever in his lifetime? He's either gonna commit hara-kiri or he's fulfilling what is to be expected of politicians - he's a lyin' bastard!
He's going to revisit it IMHO, straight after he has scoped out if the EU would want us back or at what cost.
Dave Ewing's Back 'eader
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Haven't we got a few old French francs, German marks 'n Italian lire down HMT? Gotta be a chance we could get shot of those. Don't they say they promise to pay the bearer?He's going to revisit it IMHO, straight after he has scoped out if the EU would want us back or at what cost.
Saddleworth2
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The facts speak for themselves without anecdotes. Brexit has been a disaster for the Uk.
By the end of 2023, goods trade had shrunk to levels not seen since 2015. This isn't just part of a general slowing of goods trade around the world – the UK's goods exports and imports have contracted by 13.2 per cent and 7.4 per cent since 2019, by far more than any other G7 country
The average Briton was nearly £2,000 worse off in 2023, while the average Londoner was nearly £3,400 worse off last year as a result of Brexit, the report reveals. * It also calculates that there are nearly two million fewer jobs overall in the UK due to Brexit – with almost 300,000 fewer jobs in the capital alone
Labour by ruling out rejoining even the single market will negate the most obvious lever for creating economic growth. Even tweaking round the edges to improve trade efficiency will require some realignment with EU rules.
It will continue to be a drag on the UK economy until someone puts their big boy pants on and tells the nation the truth.
By the end of 2023, goods trade had shrunk to levels not seen since 2015. This isn't just part of a general slowing of goods trade around the world – the UK's goods exports and imports have contracted by 13.2 per cent and 7.4 per cent since 2019, by far more than any other G7 country
The average Briton was nearly £2,000 worse off in 2023, while the average Londoner was nearly £3,400 worse off last year as a result of Brexit, the report reveals. * It also calculates that there are nearly two million fewer jobs overall in the UK due to Brexit – with almost 300,000 fewer jobs in the capital alone
Labour by ruling out rejoining even the single market will negate the most obvious lever for creating economic growth. Even tweaking round the edges to improve trade efficiency will require some realignment with EU rules.
It will continue to be a drag on the UK economy until someone puts their big boy pants on and tells the nation the truth.
BTH
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Couldn't agree with you more. However, while the Tory opposition has been weakened substantially, we now have five Reform MPs, led by the modern day Lord Haw-Haw himself, Farage.The facts speak for themselves without anecdotes. Brexit has been a disaster for the Uk.
By the end of 2023, goods trade had shrunk to levels not seen since 2015. This isn't just part of a general slowing of goods trade around the world – the UK's goods exports and imports have contracted by 13.2 per cent and 7.4 per cent since 2019, by far more than any other G7 country
The average Briton was nearly £2,000 worse off in 2023, while the average Londoner was nearly £3,400 worse off last year as a result of Brexit, the report reveals. * It also calculates that there are nearly two million fewer jobs overall in the UK due to Brexit – with almost 300,000 fewer jobs in the capital alone
Labour by ruling out rejoining even the single market will negate the most obvious lever for creating economic growth. Even tweaking round the edges to improve trade efficiency will require some realignment with EU rules.
It will continue to be a drag on the UK economy until someone puts their big boy pants on and tells the nation the truth.
He will do nothing other than pick his ill-gotten gains up and bray from the side-lines over the slightest thing he doesn't like or that he perceives to be anti-British, which he'll no doubt view as a better use of his time than actually representing the many deluded constituents of Clacton-on-Sea.
I think we need to spend this first team realigning ourselves with Europe and then moving towards rejoining in the second, by which time Farage, Tice and the appetite amongst some members of the public for far-right populists (both here and abroad) will be nothing but a terrible, distant memory.
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Didsbury Dave
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Labour have no choice but to move us back towards the EU step by step. It’s the only viable way to arrest our economic slide and get some growth to enable them to invest in public services. David Lammy as foreign secretary is already a step forward. They’ll have to play it carefully to avoid angering the daft people too much too early but I totally agree, this is where Starmer can and should make his name.The facts speak for themselves without anecdotes. Brexit has been a disaster for the Uk.
By the end of 2023, goods trade had shrunk to levels not seen since 2015. This isn't just part of a general slowing of goods trade around the world – the UK's goods exports and imports have contracted by 13.2 per cent and 7.4 per cent since 2019, by far more than any other G7 country
The average Briton was nearly £2,000 worse off in 2023, while the average Londoner was nearly £3,400 worse off last year as a result of Brexit, the report reveals. * It also calculates that there are nearly two million fewer jobs overall in the UK due to Brexit – with almost 300,000 fewer jobs in the capital alone
Labour by ruling out rejoining even the single market will negate the most obvious lever for creating economic growth. Even tweaking round the edges to improve trade efficiency will require some realignment with EU rules.
It will continue to be a drag on the UK economy until someone puts their big boy pants on and tells the nation the truth.
gordondaviesmoustache
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There would be absolutely no point in declaring a roadmap to rejoining in his first days in office as it’s simply not going to be on the agenda for many, many years. All it would do is to serve as a wholly unnecessary distraction and lead to a feeding frenzy in the press, to no benefit. You’ve got to choose your battles. Think, as you suggest, it will form part of the next manifesto.Couldn't agree with you more. However, while the Tory opposition has been weakened substantially, we now have five Reform MPs, led by the modern day Lord Haw-Haw himself, Farage.
He will do nothing other than pick his ill-gotten gains up and bray from the side-lines over the slightest thing he doesn't like or that he perceives to be anti-British, which he'll no doubt view as a better use of his time than actually representing the many deluded constituents of Clacton-on-Sea.
I think we need to spend this first team realigning ourselves with Europe and then moving towards rejoining in the second, by which time Farage, Tice and the appetite amongst some members of the public for far-right populists (both here and abroad) will be nothing but a terrible, distant memory.
Based on his life expectancy I would say he’s most likely wrong on the not in my lifetime part, though. Assuming the issue of immigration doesn’t drive Europe apart, which I think is unlikely but plausible. Any right thinking person hopes that the rise of the far right across the continent will run out of steam, but that’s not guaranteed, sadly.