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blueinsa
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You make my head spin lol.
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You make my head spin lol.
Sunday was a great day, and great for Pellegrini to win another trophy. However, aside from that it's been a hugely disappointing season, and one which the club has definitely not planned for. It's arrogant to suggest top 4 is safe, we of course should get it, but if we don't that wasn't planned for.I care because you can only beat what youre up against and in 3 seasons, we have done that 3 times. Success by any measure.
As for the new manager having a big rebuild job on his hands, all part of the plan. Cant you see that the club has been all about the day Pep arrives for the last 3/4 years? Dont you think that it hasnt been planned for?
Gordyola
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3 trophies in 3 seasons.
Some of the shit being spouted on here is fucking laughable.
You sound like fucking kids who want it now or they will scream and scream and scream....
He is going in the summer and not a day before, get used to it.
More of a case of what he should have won!
This season's COC saw us win 4 draw 1 and loose 1 with no clean sheets no great achievement for our squad
No one can deny what he won in the first season was on the back of Mancini's squad unfortunately the longer he has been here the worse it has got. Winning the COC is no great achievement and certainly not one that any manager should glow-in. Villa got to the FAC Final last season and look where they are. Its league titles where the manager has to do his work and frankly he hasn't been good enough it was a rarity to get hammered under Mancini, with this Charming Man its becoming more and more common, in fact I don't even expect us to beat Villa at weekend just like the relegated Burnley last season. What ever happened to Fortress Etihad? There is a danger we might find ourselves in 6th soon be it with a game in hand but, away at Newcastle are you confident of 3 point there because I'm not.
Posters on here know that the manager is to blame for the squad underachieving and are worried that we wont finish 4th outside the ECL for Pep's first season, with the consequential knock-on effect on transfers. I don't see and scream and scream and scream that you have alluded to.
He was also given a target of 5 trophies in 3 seasons looks very unlikely so he's failed
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blueinsa
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Sunday was a great day, and great for Pellegrini to win another trophy. However, aside from that it's been a hugely disappointing season, and one which the club has definitely not planned for. It's arrogant to suggest top 4 is safe, we of course should get it, but if we don't that wasn't planned for.
I Dont disagree with a single word of that mate.
What cant be ignored though is the compltet story surrounding our long term chase of Pep and the ramifications it has had on planning in the short term the last few years, coupled with severalmof our stars being injured and getting older and just being out of form.
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blueinsa
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More of a case of what he should have won!
This season's COC saw us win 4 draw 1 and loose 1 with no clean sheets no great achievement for our squad
No one can deny what he won in the first season was on the back of Mancini's squad unfortunately the longer he has been here the worse it has got. Winning the COC is no great achievement and certainly not one that any manager should glow-in. Villa got to the FAC Final last season and look where they are. Its league titles where the manager has to do his work and frankly he hasn't been good enough it was a rarity to get hammered under Mancini, with this Charming Man its becoming more and more common, in fact I don't even expect us to beat Villa at weekend just like the relegated Burnley last season. What ever happened to Fortress Etihad? There is a danger we might find ourselves in 6th soon be it with a game in hand but, away at Newcastle are you confident of 3 point there because I'm not.
Posters on here know that the manager is to blame for the squad underachieving and are worried that we wont finish 4th outside the ECL for Pep's first season, with the consequential knock-on effect on transfers. I don't see and scream and scream and scream that you have alluded to.
Why do you keep harping on about Mancini?
It offers nothing to this debate.
It's not a case of not winning everything because nobody will. I feel its more a sense of competing. We wasn't in the title race last year and nowhere near as it stands this year. I've never seen a team supposedly in a title race gets battered so many times in one season. That's what the disappointing thing is. Will 3 trophies in 3 years be a nice cushion if we are in the Europa next year? Not for me.
Vincents Tackle
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Not disagreeing with the rest of your post but it was 5 trophies in 5 seasons not 3. Luckily we won't have to find out if he would have achieved or failed that target although you could probably argue that he is on track as it stands.More of a case of what he should have won!
This season's COC saw us win 4 draw 1 and loose 1 with no clean sheets no great achievement for our squad
No one can deny what he won in the first season was on the back of Mancini's squad unfortunately the longer he has been here the worse it has got. Winning the COC is no great achievement and certainly not one that any manager should glow-in. Villa got to the FAC Final last season and look where they are. Its league titles where the manager has to do his work and frankly he hasn't been good enough it was a rarity to get hammered under Mancini, with this Charming Man its becoming more and more common, in fact I don't even expect us to beat Villa at weekend just like the relegated Burnley last season. What ever happened to Fortress Etihad? There is a danger we might find ourselves in 6th soon be it with a game in hand but, away at Newcastle are you confident of 3 point there because I'm not.
Posters on here know that the manager is to blame for the squad underachieving and are worried that we wont finish 4th outside the ECL for Pep's first season, with the consequential knock-on effect on transfers. I don't see and scream and scream and scream that you have alluded to.
He was also given a target of 5 trophies in 3 seasons looks very unlikely so he's failed
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blueinsa
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It's not a case of not winning everything because nobody will. I feel its more a sense of competing. We wasn't in the title race last year and nowhere near as it stands this year. I've never seen a team supposedly in a title race gets battered so many times in one season. That's what the disappointing thing is. Will 3 trophies in 3 years be a nice cushion if we are in the Europa next year? Not for me.
We are in Europe next year already.
abu13
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I remember back in August and September some people on here were discussing the possibility of us having an "invincibles" season.
It's incredible what have happened over the last few months, Top 4 is still in our hands and should be the absolute minimum that we set our goals at.
This really was a no win situation, announcing Pep's arrival was inevitable and could never be kept a secret, however by doing so we also killed this season, i think that the manager and many of the players have decided that this year the aim is the CL. As such everything else is a distant 2nd.
It's incredible what have happened over the last few months, Top 4 is still in our hands and should be the absolute minimum that we set our goals at.
This really was a no win situation, announcing Pep's arrival was inevitable and could never be kept a secret, however by doing so we also killed this season, i think that the manager and many of the players have decided that this year the aim is the CL. As such everything else is a distant 2nd.
Gordyola
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Why do you keep harping on about Mancini?
It offers nothing to this debate.
its the first time I've mentioned Mancini in three years. However, he was the last manager we had and this clown inherited his squad and therefore its fair to compare their achievements but with the caveat that when Mancini took over we hadn't won anything for years
Graceyboy
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You cant sit here fat and Happy saying "oh we got 3 trophies in 3 years, isnt he great" with the squad we have, we won them in spite of Manuel. His game management is horrendous and has been for 2 1/2 seasons. Dismantling a midfield last night and wondering why we cant compete and our defense is getting pulled around like billyoh, it just begs belief.
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blueinsa
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People trying to fight a battle that doesnt exist because the man they want gone is well......gone is funny as fuck.
Gordyola
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Not disagreeing with the rest of your post but it was 5 trophies in 5 seasons not 3. Luckily we won't have to find out if he would have achieved or failed that target although you could probably argue that he is on track as it stands.
Yes I stand corrected. It was Sorianho who said I want us to win 5 in 5
We are in Europe next year already.
I said if we are in Europa as fingers crossed we aren't in that pathetic competition.
Sunday was a great day, and great for Pellegrini to win another trophy. However, aside from that it's been a hugely disappointing season, and one which the club has definitely not planned for. It's arrogant to suggest top 4 is safe, we of course should get it, but if we don't that wasn't planned for.
It's true what you say but things happen some you can control other things you cannot.
Something had to give when you don't bring in the quality you require to keep ahead of the pack , your spine and people you depend on age or get injured too often and take longer to recover to not only reach peak fitness but better performance level and you don't have the youth from the academy or want to throw a selected number in the deep end to not only freshen things up but see what they can do at a higher level.
On top of that you have a manager who manages individuals but cannot manage the team to perform at or close to their maximum level week in week out like the best managers do.
The stark drop off in points per game under MP on a season by season basis is a combination of his many weaknesses he has as a manager in not only this league but in any league he manages.
Today was the 50th time a City side under MP have conceded 2 or more goals in a game that's almost a season and a further third in less than three seasons of football,
His set up and game plan is not suited to the premier league but there is no doubt that both individually and collectively most of our squad are not only past their best but cannot contribute in a meaningful way to a side wanting to compete not only with the best but even within the premier league anymore.
Zaba , Clichy , Kolorov, Mangala, Nasri, Silva , Navas, Fernandinho , Fernando , Toure , Sagna, MDM and Delph for various reasons don't have a future at the club beyond the next two windows.
Silva for as good as he has been is too easily marked out of too many games and injuries are taking their toll and MP is actually shortening his career by playing him when his ankle is not right and probably never will be unless he has an operation that with the risks involved can get his ankle/s to near what they were 2 seasons ago.
It might be harsh for sentimental reasons but they all need to go preferably over the summer but certainly by the end of next season.
It won't be easy to remove them all in one window highly unlikely and some Pep might want to give a full season to before they are discarded at the end of next season but that's how it is.
As better Pep may be than MP with the same players these players will not take City forward to where we want to be and in fact need to be so they need to be replaced by younger , fitter , faster , more physical players with far better skill sets than these players as a group.
I look forward to next season when all you whinging f*ckers are telling the best Manager/coach in the world he is picking the wrong players and using the wrong tactics. He may even visit the forum for some advice.
I wonder sometimes if you really support City , many of you couldn't have been at Wembley for what was a fantastic occasion and then already be moaning in this way.
In all 4 comps in Feb , now we've won one. Pelli must be shite.
I wonder sometimes if you really support City , many of you couldn't have been at Wembley for what was a fantastic occasion and then already be moaning in this way.
In all 4 comps in Feb , now we've won one. Pelli must be shite.
GaudinoMotors
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Maybe forums aren't for youI look forward to next season when all you whinging f*ckers are telling the best Manager/coach in the world he is picking the wrong players and using the wrong tactics. He may even visit the forum for some advice.
I wonder sometimes if you really support City , many of you couldn't have been at Wembley for what was a fantastic occasion and then already be moaning in this way.
In all 4 comps in Feb , now we've won one. Pelli must be shite.
BillyShears
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Maybe forums aren't for you
I remember saying something similar to you a few years back ;)
GaudinoMotors
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I'm sure it was more condescending!I remember saying something similar to you a few years back ;)
BillyShears
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I'm sure it was more condescending!
It's funny how many people on here feel condescended to whenever someone uses whole paragraphs rather than just glib one liners all the time to take the piss!