Blue Boy 63
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As was everything else they privatised . Ever get the feeling you`ve been swindled .
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HS2 - Birmingham to Manchester scrapped.
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Blue Til Death
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Explain yourself and your comment, rather than just posting shite..!Wow.
I just thought your post was incredibly stupid. I thought it was nicer to say wow than to call you an idiot.Explain yourself and your comment, rather than just posting shite..!
Blue Til Death
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I suspect you posted it because you have no coherent argument to refute what I said..I just thought your post was incredibly stupid. I thought it was nicer to say wow than to call you an idiot.
That’s what stupid people do… !
Now cough up or fuck off…!
threespires
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Scarlett Johansson is currently in the utility doing my ironing in nowt but that gorgeous 09/10 umbro top.
Oh hang on that's just made up bollocks.
A bit like this bizarre idea that the conservatives are more competent with the economy than Labour. There is absolutely no evidence to support it. It's a complicated subect at the best of times and the reality is historically there's not huge quantative differences between the macro economic performance of the two main parties.
As for individual historical economic events they are rarely the exclusive result of the policy approach of the incumbent government. For example it takes about half an hour to understand that something like Callaghan having to go to the IMF in '76 had it's roots in a variety of things not least of which was the previous Heath administration. Arguably if you want to play the blame game there's more instances of Conservative administrations shooting themselves in the foot economically than Labour both long term and short term. I think this is partly because Conservative governments since the 80s have been driven by ideology rather than prudence.
Someone should do a PhD into why the British public persist in buying into this bollocks. I suspect the answer is a preparedness to accept inappropriate analogies, a lack of curiosity and our good old friends the fourth estate.
Oh hang on that's just made up bollocks.
A bit like this bizarre idea that the conservatives are more competent with the economy than Labour. There is absolutely no evidence to support it. It's a complicated subect at the best of times and the reality is historically there's not huge quantative differences between the macro economic performance of the two main parties.
As for individual historical economic events they are rarely the exclusive result of the policy approach of the incumbent government. For example it takes about half an hour to understand that something like Callaghan having to go to the IMF in '76 had it's roots in a variety of things not least of which was the previous Heath administration. Arguably if you want to play the blame game there's more instances of Conservative administrations shooting themselves in the foot economically than Labour both long term and short term. I think this is partly because Conservative governments since the 80s have been driven by ideology rather than prudence.
Someone should do a PhD into why the British public persist in buying into this bollocks. I suspect the answer is a preparedness to accept inappropriate analogies, a lack of curiosity and our good old friends the fourth estate.
MCFC Wirral
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It’s like a quote tweet reply with three LOL emojis. Little more than cowardly bullying.Explain yourself and your comment, rather than just posting shite..!
Grassland Blue
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Just another addition to the list of publicly owned industries stolen from the nation.The other issue that seems to have been forgotten is that the railways were “sold off” ! - the majority of it including the land and rolling stock was given away or sold for nominal fees - the usual Tory pigs were there to feed at the trough.
East Level 2
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Someone phoned a radio show (possibly the James O'Brien programme on LBC) and claimed we could have increased capacity by at least the same amount as HS2 for a small percentage of the overall price but it wouldn't have been a high speed service.
If the prime function of HS2 was capacity rather than speed (and we don't really need to save 20 minutes to London) would this have been a realistic alternative or did the government want the cachet of a high speed line?
Please restrict the answers to rail and civil engineering criteria as I don't need telling how bloody useless Sunak and his colleagues are.
If the prime function of HS2 was capacity rather than speed (and we don't really need to save 20 minutes to London) would this have been a realistic alternative or did the government want the cachet of a high speed line?
Please restrict the answers to rail and civil engineering criteria as I don't need telling how bloody useless Sunak and his colleagues are.
denislawsbackheel
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Well I for one am glad that in their post HS2 planning they intend to extend the Manchester metrolink to the airport and build Nottingham a tram system…
Oh hang on…
Oh hang on…
Blackley_Blue
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Probably already mentioned on here...
I did wonder if the people who had their homes & land compulsory purchased would be eligible to buy it back, and it turns out they are, by law they have first refusal at today's market value.
So someone who had to sell their house/land for £500,000 in 2015 would now be eligible to buy it back....for £750,000. Even those who sold in 2021 are facing paying up to 25% more.
Also read that the firm who the government were using to complete the compulsory purchases were kept in the dark until the actual speech. And they completed a purchase of an estate for £1.5mil just the day before the cancellation.
Scandalous really.
I did wonder if the people who had their homes & land compulsory purchased would be eligible to buy it back, and it turns out they are, by law they have first refusal at today's market value.
So someone who had to sell their house/land for £500,000 in 2015 would now be eligible to buy it back....for £750,000. Even those who sold in 2021 are facing paying up to 25% more.
Also read that the firm who the government were using to complete the compulsory purchases were kept in the dark until the actual speech. And they completed a purchase of an estate for £1.5mil just the day before the cancellation.
Scandalous really.