Everyone there today must have thought RSC shite. Adebayor and Ireland lazy. Bridge liability, Toure shadow of the player he was. SWP no trick, no quality, no clue how to beat his man except with pace. Tevez worked his bollocks off but has no position. What exactly does Hughes see? I do not believe he will ever instill a winning mentality and therefore we will never improve. Blanc, Hiddink, Rikjaard, Ranieri, Sven, Moyes any of these please.
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Hughes OUT
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I feel sorry for players like Lescott who win 9/10 challenges and are then publically ridiculed for making one mistake that leads to a goal. Terry plays behind a solid midfield - we're turning into Ossie Ardliles Spurs, and it's painful to watch. The draws are predictable which is why it's infuriating that an experienced manager should make such a mistake - 3 times, and not have the balls to correct it with a sub!
Freedom without the ball isn't much good, and no defensive cover makes it easy for the weakest and clueless of opponents to get one on one on our defenders.PabZab said:His game plan was put 5 vastly superior attackers on a pitch and hope they can express themselves when they were given freedom.
I feel sorry for players like Lescott who win 9/10 challenges and are then publically ridiculed for making one mistake that leads to a goal. Terry plays behind a solid midfield - we're turning into Ossie Ardliles Spurs, and it's painful to watch. The draws are predictable which is why it's infuriating that an experienced manager should make such a mistake - 3 times, and not have the balls to correct it with a sub!
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Damocles said:Currently overall, we look like a team who is destined for the top ten.
We also have ten minute stretches when we look like a CL team. In particularly today, I'm thinking of the 20-30 minute mark and that SWP chance which was one touched down the pitch stands out in my mind. That was beautiful, beautiful football.
I'm just hoping that we can turn those 10 minute stretches into 20 minute stretches, then 30 minutes, etc.
The thing is, we do look capable, we just look bloody lazy at times. If there is one manager in the world who I trust to get rid of any laziness in a team and stick some fight in them, it's Mark Hughes. That's his forte.
That's the whole point.
In very sparse, sporadic flashes we show what we're capable of - or could be capable of under a capable manager.
The complete lack of coherence, understanding, and organisation is frustrating, borderline infuriating to watch predictably unfold each and every fucking week.
The man we currently have in charge is an absolute buffoon, who is incapable of learning from his countless mistakes and is without doubt completely out of his depth.
The man is leading us head-first into another inevitable season of failure, countless excuses and dire underachievement.
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bondsman said:Everyone there today must have thought RSC shite. Adebayor and Ireland lazy. Bridge liability, Toure shadow of the player he was. SWP no trick, no quality, no clue how to beat his man except with pace. Tevez worked his bollocks off but has no position. What exactly does Hughes see? I do not believe he will ever instill a winning mentality and therefore we will never improve. Blanc, Hiddink, Rikjaard, Ranieri, Sven, Moyes any of these please.
I want Hughes out but don't agree with your assessment of players at all. Bridge had a good game and SWP had a brilliant second half. I don't see how Ireland was "lazy" either. That's the major problem. Individuals aren't having shockers but the sum of the parts is all wrong. What does that tell you?
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I've had enough of sticking up for him. If we have a shit December, he should go.
But the Club have changed everything around from top to bottom for Hughes, so there's no way they sack him and his 20+ staff untill atleast end of the season
But the Club have changed everything around from top to bottom for Hughes, so there's no way they sack him and his 20+ staff untill atleast end of the season
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I have now discovered who the foamers remind me of. Teddy Taylor and his merry band of maastricht rebels. Same tone, same JumPing on everthing but above all the same joy when things go wrong.
I am gutted we didn't beat hull there were a lot of reasons behind it and simplistic hughes out, we are shit comments are a bit like saying everything in Europe is bad because the fisheries policy was flawed.
Also I do find ithard To take any opinion seriously with "should of" in it. I am no posh bastard but that offends the eye.
I am gutted we didn't beat hull there were a lot of reasons behind it and simplistic hughes out, we are shit comments are a bit like saying everything in Europe is bad because the fisheries policy was flawed.
Also I do find ithard To take any opinion seriously with "should of" in it. I am no posh bastard but that offends the eye.
EalingBlue2 said:JumPing
That reminds me, I must order a Chinese for tea.
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Im not arsed about the away games as much we have had some decent draws, but then giving away the lead against Fulham,Burnley and Hull at home is a fooking joke!
I think its 9 draws out of 12 if you include the LC games and we should of drew against Rags to make it 10!
I think its 9 draws out of 12 if you include the LC games and we should of drew against Rags to make it 10!
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bondsman said:What did he do that was brilliant? He couldnt even take corners today? Ireland's work rate was well below anything we saw last year, compare how many times Bullard wanted to get on the ball with Stevie today.
He shouldn't even be on corners! He ran them ragged. Slag them off by all means, but don't drag them all into it.
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Sven? The man who gave us the biggest turn around in city history - from champion challengers in sept to the worst teamin the prem by may! No thanks.
A crook like hiddink? No way will our owners risk their reputation!
Mourinho would be a good bet but we wouldbe playing similar football to the Liverpool game without the mistakes.
Let's stop looking for a magic quick silver bullet! There isn't one.ìt will take Time we will have problems and have to be patient whoever. Is manager.
A crook like hiddink? No way will our owners risk their reputation!
Mourinho would be a good bet but we wouldbe playing similar football to the Liverpool game without the mistakes.
Let's stop looking for a magic quick silver bullet! There isn't one.ìt will take Time we will have problems and have to be patient whoever. Is manager.
If we would of got the draw at the swamp we would also be unbeaten this year..Shooter 83 said:Im not arsed about the away games as much we have had some decent draws, but then giving away the lead against Fulham,Burnley and Hull at home is a fooking joke!
I think its 9 draws out of 12 if you include the LC games and we should of drew against Rags to make it 10!
Do you have any doubts about Hughes. Honestly? Have you ever questioned a manager?EalingBlue2 said:Sven? The man who gave us the biggest turn around in city history - from champion challengers in sept to the worst teamin the prem by may! No thanks.
A crook like hiddink? No way will our owners risk their reputation!
Mourinho would be a good bet but we wouldbe playing similar football to the Liverpool game without the mistakes.
Let's stop looking for a magic quick silver bullet! There isn't one.ìt will take Time we will have problems and have to be patient whoever. Is manager.
We have no choice to support City, but the home line-ups are bizarre. The pundits look like they were right. City have signed a team of strikers and are intent on playing them all, at the expense of the team.
There are no magic bullets, but the manager is the most important man at the lcub, and once its clear he's not up to it, he has to go
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Dear Chairman
Hello there, haven't had the pleasure of meeting you yet.
Just wanted to say what a fabulous job Mark Hughes is doing. Sixth you said and by golly Hughes has got the team playing at that level. Yes, yes, of course we could quibble about a result or two or three... well technically seven, but the point is the team is not losing and is only one of a handful of clubs in the entire five tiers of English Football that have only lost one game so far this season in the league.
I know you hear the rumblings of some of the fans concerning the in game tactics and substitutions but really what do they know? As Hughes insinuated last season when defending his playing of Vassell they really are just trouble causers. I mean in the grand scheme of things, who can't see the value of playing a virtual man down? Builds character that does.
This has nothing to do, nothing to do, with the potential unemployment of a Spaniard in Liverpool. It's a complete coincidence that my public support of the Manager happens to coincide with the slow realization from the Anfield faithful that Benitez won with Houllier's team, has frittered away 200 million and the inevitable job search that will ensue. Honest... complete coincidence.
Real Madrid hasn't figured that out either, so lets all giggle when they introduce their new manager next summer. In the meantime City will go from strength to strength with an invigorating sixth place in the Premier League. It's the club's highest position ever.
And you know, City might still win something this year. We seem to have the measure of Arsenal when we play them at home, so who knows maybe this year the Liquid Cup has our name on it. What do you say, top 4 next year?
"Hughes... could be worse." Admittedly not the greatest marketing slogan ever, but work with me here.
CTID
Hello there, haven't had the pleasure of meeting you yet.
Just wanted to say what a fabulous job Mark Hughes is doing. Sixth you said and by golly Hughes has got the team playing at that level. Yes, yes, of course we could quibble about a result or two or three... well technically seven, but the point is the team is not losing and is only one of a handful of clubs in the entire five tiers of English Football that have only lost one game so far this season in the league.
I know you hear the rumblings of some of the fans concerning the in game tactics and substitutions but really what do they know? As Hughes insinuated last season when defending his playing of Vassell they really are just trouble causers. I mean in the grand scheme of things, who can't see the value of playing a virtual man down? Builds character that does.
This has nothing to do, nothing to do, with the potential unemployment of a Spaniard in Liverpool. It's a complete coincidence that my public support of the Manager happens to coincide with the slow realization from the Anfield faithful that Benitez won with Houllier's team, has frittered away 200 million and the inevitable job search that will ensue. Honest... complete coincidence.
Real Madrid hasn't figured that out either, so lets all giggle when they introduce their new manager next summer. In the meantime City will go from strength to strength with an invigorating sixth place in the Premier League. It's the club's highest position ever.
And you know, City might still win something this year. We seem to have the measure of Arsenal when we play them at home, so who knows maybe this year the Liquid Cup has our name on it. What do you say, top 4 next year?
"Hughes... could be worse." Admittedly not the greatest marketing slogan ever, but work with me here.
CTID
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DTKOAG said:If we would of got the draw at the swamp we would also be unbeaten this year..Shooter 83 said:Im not arsed about the away games as much we have had some decent draws, but then giving away the lead against Fulham,Burnley and Hull at home is a fooking joke!
I think its 9 draws out of 12 if you include the LC games and we should of drew against Rags to make it 10!
38 draws = relegated.
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Doubts about hughes?
I have no doubts we should keep him as long as he keeps us on track for our owners 5 year plan.
If we don't come top 6 then I think he has to go.
As for doubts I don't doubt we should keep him now! Will he win is the league? I have doubts there but I would if capello was manager.
Can he do better? Yes
Will he do better I expect so!
The answers aren't so simple ie that our defence is shit as I would say in open play we have probably the 3rd best record in the prem. Will we improve defending set pieces? Yes I think time willget the communication better.
I have no doubts we should keep him as long as he keeps us on track for our owners 5 year plan.
If we don't come top 6 then I think he has to go.
As for doubts I don't doubt we should keep him now! Will he win is the league? I have doubts there but I would if capello was manager.
Can he do better? Yes
Will he do better I expect so!
The answers aren't so simple ie that our defence is shit as I would say in open play we have probably the 3rd best record in the prem. Will we improve defending set pieces? Yes I think time willget the communication better.
On the way home on GMR someone said that Hughes has turned world class players in ordinary players and after watching that today I have to agree. Im not sure he can handle the players.
I am now leaning to towards the Hughes out side
I am now leaning to towards the Hughes out side
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Not being a pedant but most seasons 38 points is well and truly safe!
Also 7 draws and 38 draws is just a touch different!
Also 7 draws and 38 draws is just a touch different!
That's a great soundbite, but who exactly?
Adebayor has had a good season overall.
Tevez was never world class, and has played as well as he ever has.
Bellamy wasn't world class.
Given has done well.
Toure and Lescott weren't world class.
Bridge wasn't world class.
Barry was close, but not world class.
Robinho has been injured most of the season, and looked lively most games he's played.
Ireland, Richards, and SWP aren't world class.
Which players exactly?
I think this is one of those things that sounds good, but is actually media bollocks.
Adebayor has had a good season overall.
Tevez was never world class, and has played as well as he ever has.
Bellamy wasn't world class.
Given has done well.
Toure and Lescott weren't world class.
Bridge wasn't world class.
Barry was close, but not world class.
Robinho has been injured most of the season, and looked lively most games he's played.
Ireland, Richards, and SWP aren't world class.
Which players exactly?
I think this is one of those things that sounds good, but is actually media bollocks.
Chippy_boy
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Let's face it lads, 70-odd games and still playing like this. With these players. Good players.
Time's up, isn't it.
There's no shame in it. Managers get the sack all the time and it's not like we haven't given him a good run. He's had two full transfer windows, a blank cheque book and umpteem games. Enough is enough now.
But let's not be stupid about it. Garry - it's time to earn your crust. Get on the phone to the owners and tell them you need £Xm to bring a new world class manager on board, get on a plane and go and get Mourinho or Hiddink lined up. And when the ink is drying, Hughes goes.
Time's up, isn't it.
There's no shame in it. Managers get the sack all the time and it's not like we haven't given him a good run. He's had two full transfer windows, a blank cheque book and umpteem games. Enough is enough now.
But let's not be stupid about it. Garry - it's time to earn your crust. Get on the phone to the owners and tell them you need £Xm to bring a new world class manager on board, get on a plane and go and get Mourinho or Hiddink lined up. And when the ink is drying, Hughes goes.