BoyBlue_1985
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Re: not long left for hughes
This normally means sacked in 4 games
halfcenturyup said:
This normally means sacked in 4 games
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Re: not long left for hughes
From a Spurs fan on another forum:
What QPR Should xpect From Harry
Just a quick mention...21st October could be the day when the World Famous Premier League Survival Consultant (TM) is called in to save QPR. All hail Harry Redknapp!!!!!* See terms and conditions...
Will repeatedly mention 2 points in 8 games after every win.
Will never take responsibility when you lose.
Will tell you you've always been sh*t if your fans complain.
Will have no long-term vision for the club. Will buy hasbeens and cripples to get you to the end of the season (QPR already adapting for HR as we speak).
Will bring in Bondy with his clipboard and Joe Jordan (jobs for the boys).
Will throw your tactics board in the bin and just tell your players to 'run arraaaaaaaahnd a bit'.
Tell the BBC that Sandra would have put that chance away that Bobby Zamora missed.
Will constantly talk out of his car window.
Will call SSN into his back garden to tout for a new contract...hopefully will not do on the day your chairman is at his Mums funeral, but I can't promise that he won't.
If talks aren't forthcoming, your chairman can expect a call from 'Attack Dog' agent Paul Stretford.
Massive squad required...but less squad rotation than any team in the Prem.
Throws all competitions other than Premier League
From a Spurs fan on another forum:
What QPR Should xpect From Harry
Just a quick mention...21st October could be the day when the World Famous Premier League Survival Consultant (TM) is called in to save QPR. All hail Harry Redknapp!!!!!* See terms and conditions...
Will repeatedly mention 2 points in 8 games after every win.
Will never take responsibility when you lose.
Will tell you you've always been sh*t if your fans complain.
Will have no long-term vision for the club. Will buy hasbeens and cripples to get you to the end of the season (QPR already adapting for HR as we speak).
Will bring in Bondy with his clipboard and Joe Jordan (jobs for the boys).
Will throw your tactics board in the bin and just tell your players to 'run arraaaaaaaahnd a bit'.
Tell the BBC that Sandra would have put that chance away that Bobby Zamora missed.
Will constantly talk out of his car window.
Will call SSN into his back garden to tout for a new contract...hopefully will not do on the day your chairman is at his Mums funeral, but I can't promise that he won't.
If talks aren't forthcoming, your chairman can expect a call from 'Attack Dog' agent Paul Stretford.
Massive squad required...but less squad rotation than any team in the Prem.
Throws all competitions other than Premier League
whats platt doing
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Re: not long left for hughes
they have some really tough games coming up. i think Everton, Reading and Arsenal. if they only get 1 from those then they will have 3 from 10 so will need 37 from 28 to stay up - thats 12 wins. Considering they will only win a maximum of 3 away they will need to win 9 og 14 at home. Not easy. i think and hope they will go!
they have some really tough games coming up. i think Everton, Reading and Arsenal. if they only get 1 from those then they will have 3 from 10 so will need 37 from 28 to stay up - thats 12 wins. Considering they will only win a maximum of 3 away they will need to win 9 og 14 at home. Not easy. i think and hope they will go!
Gabriel
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Re: not long left for hughes
Couched in those terms, it doesn't look good for Hughes, or indeed QPR. Likely to beat an established team and then lose to Reading.
whats platt doing said:they have some really tough games coming up. i think Everton, Reading and Arsenal. if they only get 1 from those then they will have 3 from 10 so will need 37 from 28 to stay up - thats 12 wins. Considering they will only win a maximum of 3 away they will need to win 9 og 14 at home. Not easy. i think and hope they will go!
Couched in those terms, it doesn't look good for Hughes, or indeed QPR. Likely to beat an established team and then lose to Reading.
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Re: not long left for hughes
Hughes is a total failure
he buys player as if its fantasy league
Hughes is a total failure
he buys player as if its fantasy league
sergiokun
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Re: not long left for hughes
Lol true
BoyBlue_1985 said:halfcenturyup said:Not sure I like the idea of owners tweeting. He should be keeping his mouth shut and his bowels open.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/19870659
Mark Hughes is the 'right man' for QPR, says owner Tony Fernandes
Queens Park Rangers owner Tony Fernandes says Mark Hughes is the "right man" to manage the club despite their poor start to the season.
The west London side remain bottom of the Premier League table after their 3-2 defeat by West Brom at the Hawthorns.
Fernandes remains fully committed to Hughes, tweeting: "For all QPR fans. Fans who analyse properly. I am not changing anything.
"No team except the first game has outplayed us... Mark is the right man."
He added: "For all those calling for change, this is the team that outplayed Spurs and gave Chelsea a damm good game and you want change. No way."
This normally means sacked in 4 games
Lol true
NipHolmes
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Re: not long left for hughes
I'm convinced Hughes is pretty close to Derren Brown and took Fernandes for a night out. They went to a strip club and Hughes spiked his drink with a bit of Ro' and Hughes takes him to a hotel where Derrens staying. Derren proceeds to subliminally hypnotize Tony. Hughes gets a huge transfer budget and constant backing and Derren grabbed a cheeky shag whilst Tony was asleep. Everybody's a winner bar Tony, body raped and wallet raped :(
I'm convinced Hughes is pretty close to Derren Brown and took Fernandes for a night out. They went to a strip club and Hughes spiked his drink with a bit of Ro' and Hughes takes him to a hotel where Derrens staying. Derren proceeds to subliminally hypnotize Tony. Hughes gets a huge transfer budget and constant backing and Derren grabbed a cheeky shag whilst Tony was asleep. Everybody's a winner bar Tony, body raped and wallet raped :(
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Re: not long left for hughes
Mark Hughes was once tipped to follow Sir Alex into the United hotseat but now he's in a fight he can't lose
By MARTIN SAMUEL
13 November 2012 |
If it all ends badly for Queens Park Rangers on Saturday, what next for manager Mark Hughes? Short term, another vote of confidence, maybe one more stay of execution. But beyond? What if, in time, the patience of his employer, Tony Fernandes, wears thin? What if the end is sooner than we think and the meeting with Southampton is Hughes’s last as Rangers boss? Where would he go from there?
A must-win game, Fernandes called the weekend fixture, which is never a good sign. He has been impressively supportive to this point and indulged Hughes in the transfer market in the summer, in quantity if not quality. Yet even his loyalty has a limit and it may be exceeded if Rangers pass another weekend without their first Premier League win of the season.
Nigel Adkins of Southampton is also under executive scrutiny and in the bottom three but he has successive promotions as collateral. Even were chairman Nicola Cortese to lose patience, there would be plenty who would recognise Adkins’s achievements. Being sacked by Southampton hardly impacted on the career of Alan Pardew.
Under pressure: Mark Hughes is fighting to save QPR's season... and his own managerial career
It is different for Hughes. Fail at Rangers and the man who was once regarded as one of the brightest young managers in the English game, and a contender for top jobs across Europe if successful, would be close to unemployable. If the stakes are high for Rangers, they are peaking for Hughes.
Harry Redknapp is a fine manager, but he is out of work right now because he is an awkward fit. Tottenham Hotspur deserted him last season, so did the Football Association, and what else is left? Is he likely to get one of the Champions League elite clubs: Manchester United, Manchester City, Arsenal or Chelsea? Not at 65. Would the mid-table comfort zone content him after challenging in Europe with Tottenham? Probably not, considering he turned down Newcastle United in 2008.
So what to do? Even if a club suited him, a job opportunity must first arise. Redknapp back at West Ham United? Not while Sam Allardyce is sixth in the league. Redknapp for Liverpool? Brendan Rodgers must be given at least a season first. Redknapp costs money, overhauls team rosters, always wants financial backing and is the same age as the singer from Herman’s Hermits. And nobody is booking them for Glastonbury next summer, either.
Hughes has similar baggage, putting off potential suitors having walked away from Fulham. And, like Redknapp, when times are tight, the cost of his new broom is seen as problematic. Being bottom of the league is bad enough, but resting there at considerable expense is a terrifying thought for all owners. Those outside Rangers will look at Fernandes’s predicament, shudder and place a mental line through the name Mark Hughes.
Ominous: Rangers' owner Tony Fernandes (right) has warned that Hughes must beat Southampton
He costs big, that is what they will think. He demands a significant budget — for wages, if not transfer fees — he brings an extensive backroom staff, he usually has grand designs on the training complex. And Hughes’s instincts for improvement are right on every count. Yet this season, he has also made some very public errors. Taking England goalkeeper Robert Green from West Ham United on £50,000 a week, and dumping him after three league games, was a shocker.
Julio Cesar, Green’s replacement, was also a free transfer but his wages will be significant after a career at Inter Milan. Green was blamed for a fair sprinkling of the nine goals which were conceded in matches with Swansea City, Norwich City and Manchester City — plus a smattering in pre-season friendlies — and Hughes acted swiftly. But £50,000 is a lot of money to pay a man to observe football from the sidelines.
Nor did it help when Cesar said that he accepted Rangers’ proposal because he wanted to live in London. Nobody was expecting him to cite a lifelong admiration for Stan Bowles, or the opportunity to work with Shaun Wright-Phillips, as his motivation, but such a flippant aside only contributes to the idea that Fernandes has ended up throwing good money after bad in his desperation to satisfy his manager.
A costly mistake: Hughes quickly lost faith in Robert Green - but the goalkeeper didn't come cheap
It is a myth that Rangers spent hugely in the summer but they had a relative go for a club who have the lowest average gate in the Premier League, and would only be 11th in the Championship and behind Sheffield United in League One in terms of crowd figures. Rangers are not even among the six best-supported clubs in London — Charlton Athletic are bigger, too — so while Park Ji-sung may have been a free transfer from Manchester United, for a club of QPR’s size, he won’t exactly have been a bargain. The same goes for Jose Bosingwa.
On Saturday, as Rangers lost again at Stoke City, Hughes’s agent, Kia Joorabchian, could be seen behind Fernandes in the directors’ box. Joorabchian has excellent contacts in South America. Players from that country, however, rarely come cheap. Hughes’s link to Joorabchian — which was also a feature of his time at Manchester City — will only cement his reputation as a manager whose tastes cost.
Fine, if Rangers were where West Ham are now. The club went the extra yard to get Andy Carroll, Kevin Nolan and Matt Jarvis for manager Allardyce but have reaped the rewards with an impressive start to the season. As QPR and West Ham are seen to have shared ambitions this season, while Fernandes’s project remains stalled, Hughes looks increasingly like a manager whose judgment is not worth the coin.
The fall from grace in modern football can be savagely swift. Hughes’s c.v. affords old-boy status at some of Europe’s greatest clubs — Manchester United, Chelsea, Barcelona and Bayern Munich — and when his early managerial career showed such promise, it was widely presumed that he would walk back through the door at one of them as more than a guest some day.
Down and out? QPR sit bottom of the Barclays Premier League and Hughes must quickly pick up his troops
Yet mired in crisis at Loftus Road his stock among the great, the good, even the panicking wildly, slumps by the game.This is a sudden and unexpected shift in fortune. There was a time not so long ago when Hughes was well regarded by Roman Abramovich or seen as a potential successor to Sir Alex Ferguson at Old Trafford. Not any more. The United link ended with his time at Manchester City and the bad blood around the Tevez acquisition but not even a long list at Stamford Bridge would contain his details these days.
From here, he makes Rangers work or slips from view.
Unemployable is a harsh term, but think on it. Hughes walked out on Fulham because the club did not share his ambition, so does not seem the ideal fit for a team intent on survival or outside the top division. He has worked at an elite club, Manchester City, and that did not end happily with serious money spent, and he has worked with an up-and-comer in Rangers and got them playing more like down-and-outers. What is left?
Even if Hughes wanted to be a run-of-the-mill Premier League Mr Average, would any chairman take a chance? Before Rangers, certainly before Fulham, there was sympathy and support in abundance. Hughes was considered the fall guy for the new regime at City, saddled with a project that wanted to run before it could walk. Robinho arrived without his knowledge and the doomed deal for Kaka rebounded on the image of the club more than the manager. As the deal fell apart, the only figure whose credibility remained intact was the quiet, diligent Hughes. When he was replaced, equally clumsily, by Roberto Mancini, he left in credit.
So QPR was thought a highly suitable project. Yes, there was another hurried rebuilding job to be done, but this time no galactico egos needed to be stroked. Having felt let down at Fulham, here was a perfect third way. Not too big, not too small, Rangers were just right; or so it seemed. Now Hughes is in a fight to the finish; literally, perhaps, if he fails to win on Saturday. This is bigger than even the six-pointer of cliche.
Still, it’s not all bad news. In case you hadn’t noticed, Joey Barton’s 12-match ban is up.
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Mark Hughes was once tipped to follow Sir Alex into the United hotseat but now he's in a fight he can't lose
By MARTIN SAMUEL
13 November 2012 |
If it all ends badly for Queens Park Rangers on Saturday, what next for manager Mark Hughes? Short term, another vote of confidence, maybe one more stay of execution. But beyond? What if, in time, the patience of his employer, Tony Fernandes, wears thin? What if the end is sooner than we think and the meeting with Southampton is Hughes’s last as Rangers boss? Where would he go from there?
A must-win game, Fernandes called the weekend fixture, which is never a good sign. He has been impressively supportive to this point and indulged Hughes in the transfer market in the summer, in quantity if not quality. Yet even his loyalty has a limit and it may be exceeded if Rangers pass another weekend without their first Premier League win of the season.
Nigel Adkins of Southampton is also under executive scrutiny and in the bottom three but he has successive promotions as collateral. Even were chairman Nicola Cortese to lose patience, there would be plenty who would recognise Adkins’s achievements. Being sacked by Southampton hardly impacted on the career of Alan Pardew.
Under pressure: Mark Hughes is fighting to save QPR's season... and his own managerial career
It is different for Hughes. Fail at Rangers and the man who was once regarded as one of the brightest young managers in the English game, and a contender for top jobs across Europe if successful, would be close to unemployable. If the stakes are high for Rangers, they are peaking for Hughes.
Harry Redknapp is a fine manager, but he is out of work right now because he is an awkward fit. Tottenham Hotspur deserted him last season, so did the Football Association, and what else is left? Is he likely to get one of the Champions League elite clubs: Manchester United, Manchester City, Arsenal or Chelsea? Not at 65. Would the mid-table comfort zone content him after challenging in Europe with Tottenham? Probably not, considering he turned down Newcastle United in 2008.
So what to do? Even if a club suited him, a job opportunity must first arise. Redknapp back at West Ham United? Not while Sam Allardyce is sixth in the league. Redknapp for Liverpool? Brendan Rodgers must be given at least a season first. Redknapp costs money, overhauls team rosters, always wants financial backing and is the same age as the singer from Herman’s Hermits. And nobody is booking them for Glastonbury next summer, either.
Hughes has similar baggage, putting off potential suitors having walked away from Fulham. And, like Redknapp, when times are tight, the cost of his new broom is seen as problematic. Being bottom of the league is bad enough, but resting there at considerable expense is a terrifying thought for all owners. Those outside Rangers will look at Fernandes’s predicament, shudder and place a mental line through the name Mark Hughes.
Ominous: Rangers' owner Tony Fernandes (right) has warned that Hughes must beat Southampton
He costs big, that is what they will think. He demands a significant budget — for wages, if not transfer fees — he brings an extensive backroom staff, he usually has grand designs on the training complex. And Hughes’s instincts for improvement are right on every count. Yet this season, he has also made some very public errors. Taking England goalkeeper Robert Green from West Ham United on £50,000 a week, and dumping him after three league games, was a shocker.
Julio Cesar, Green’s replacement, was also a free transfer but his wages will be significant after a career at Inter Milan. Green was blamed for a fair sprinkling of the nine goals which were conceded in matches with Swansea City, Norwich City and Manchester City — plus a smattering in pre-season friendlies — and Hughes acted swiftly. But £50,000 is a lot of money to pay a man to observe football from the sidelines.
Nor did it help when Cesar said that he accepted Rangers’ proposal because he wanted to live in London. Nobody was expecting him to cite a lifelong admiration for Stan Bowles, or the opportunity to work with Shaun Wright-Phillips, as his motivation, but such a flippant aside only contributes to the idea that Fernandes has ended up throwing good money after bad in his desperation to satisfy his manager.
A costly mistake: Hughes quickly lost faith in Robert Green - but the goalkeeper didn't come cheap
It is a myth that Rangers spent hugely in the summer but they had a relative go for a club who have the lowest average gate in the Premier League, and would only be 11th in the Championship and behind Sheffield United in League One in terms of crowd figures. Rangers are not even among the six best-supported clubs in London — Charlton Athletic are bigger, too — so while Park Ji-sung may have been a free transfer from Manchester United, for a club of QPR’s size, he won’t exactly have been a bargain. The same goes for Jose Bosingwa.
On Saturday, as Rangers lost again at Stoke City, Hughes’s agent, Kia Joorabchian, could be seen behind Fernandes in the directors’ box. Joorabchian has excellent contacts in South America. Players from that country, however, rarely come cheap. Hughes’s link to Joorabchian — which was also a feature of his time at Manchester City — will only cement his reputation as a manager whose tastes cost.
Fine, if Rangers were where West Ham are now. The club went the extra yard to get Andy Carroll, Kevin Nolan and Matt Jarvis for manager Allardyce but have reaped the rewards with an impressive start to the season. As QPR and West Ham are seen to have shared ambitions this season, while Fernandes’s project remains stalled, Hughes looks increasingly like a manager whose judgment is not worth the coin.
The fall from grace in modern football can be savagely swift. Hughes’s c.v. affords old-boy status at some of Europe’s greatest clubs — Manchester United, Chelsea, Barcelona and Bayern Munich — and when his early managerial career showed such promise, it was widely presumed that he would walk back through the door at one of them as more than a guest some day.
Down and out? QPR sit bottom of the Barclays Premier League and Hughes must quickly pick up his troops
Yet mired in crisis at Loftus Road his stock among the great, the good, even the panicking wildly, slumps by the game.This is a sudden and unexpected shift in fortune. There was a time not so long ago when Hughes was well regarded by Roman Abramovich or seen as a potential successor to Sir Alex Ferguson at Old Trafford. Not any more. The United link ended with his time at Manchester City and the bad blood around the Tevez acquisition but not even a long list at Stamford Bridge would contain his details these days.
From here, he makes Rangers work or slips from view.
Unemployable is a harsh term, but think on it. Hughes walked out on Fulham because the club did not share his ambition, so does not seem the ideal fit for a team intent on survival or outside the top division. He has worked at an elite club, Manchester City, and that did not end happily with serious money spent, and he has worked with an up-and-comer in Rangers and got them playing more like down-and-outers. What is left?
Even if Hughes wanted to be a run-of-the-mill Premier League Mr Average, would any chairman take a chance? Before Rangers, certainly before Fulham, there was sympathy and support in abundance. Hughes was considered the fall guy for the new regime at City, saddled with a project that wanted to run before it could walk. Robinho arrived without his knowledge and the doomed deal for Kaka rebounded on the image of the club more than the manager. As the deal fell apart, the only figure whose credibility remained intact was the quiet, diligent Hughes. When he was replaced, equally clumsily, by Roberto Mancini, he left in credit.
So QPR was thought a highly suitable project. Yes, there was another hurried rebuilding job to be done, but this time no galactico egos needed to be stroked. Having felt let down at Fulham, here was a perfect third way. Not too big, not too small, Rangers were just right; or so it seemed. Now Hughes is in a fight to the finish; literally, perhaps, if he fails to win on Saturday. This is bigger than even the six-pointer of cliche.
Still, it’s not all bad news. In case you hadn’t noticed, Joey Barton’s 12-match ban is up.
Read more: <a class="postlink" href="http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/article-2232541/Mark-Hughes-fight-lose-QPR--Martin-Samuel.html#ixzz2CBdB9QSt" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/articl ... z2CBdB9QSt</a>
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Lancet Fluke
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Re: not long left for hughes
Funny how Hughes left us with his reputation totally intact apart from with the people who had to watch his team try to defend every week and then had to filter through the Joorabchian fuelled media lies for about 18 months afterwards. Also funny that now everyone else has the same view of Hughes as your average City fan. I like QPR, it's a shame Fernandes didn't talk to a few City supporters before he sacked Warnock and took on Hughes. Presumably he read the papers instead.
Funny how Hughes left us with his reputation totally intact apart from with the people who had to watch his team try to defend every week and then had to filter through the Joorabchian fuelled media lies for about 18 months afterwards. Also funny that now everyone else has the same view of Hughes as your average City fan. I like QPR, it's a shame Fernandes didn't talk to a few City supporters before he sacked Warnock and took on Hughes. Presumably he read the papers instead.