Hughes tactically Naive?

[citoeast]

I hate to say it but on the BBC Interview Hughes looked rattled, a man under serious stress and pressure, the usual cool professional exterior gone. That is worrying. Keep Hughes change the backroom tem, now.

No he didnt, what the fuck are you on about, only thing thats worrying is so called fans like you.

i am afraid you need to listen to it again, and study body language.

 

[smithy167]

No he didnt, what the fuck are you on about, only thing thats worrying is so called fans like you.

i am afraid you need to listen to it again, and study body language.

So you`re a body language expert now as well as a top class football manager, please stop.

 

[smithy167]

You say you have waited for a year, iv been waiting over 30 years, what do you want from the guy exactly in a year, to win the league? what is it your waiting for that can be done in a year? statments like iv been waitning a year are bullshit, you are embarrassing.

I have been a City supporter for over 40 years, so I think I can spot when a team and a manager or failing, something is seriously wrong behind the scenes. We may not be allowed to see it but all the signs are there on the pitch on matchday which we can see.

I have waited for over one year to see evidence of Hughes tactical abilty, I have not seen it.

Tell us what you are waiting for that cant wait till the end of the season then.

 

[citoeast]

i am afraid you need to listen to it again, and study body language.

So you`re a body language expert now as well as a top class football manager, please stop.

What right do you have to question me, and what knowledge do you have. I am perfectly able to form my own opinion and that whats forums are about. You know nothing, matey.

 

[citoeast]

I have been a City supporter for over 40 years, so I think I can spot when a team and a manager or failing, something is seriously wrong behind the scenes. We may not be allowed to see it but all the signs are there on the pitch on matchday which we can see.

I have waited for over one year to see evidence of Hughes tactical abilty, I have not seen it.

Tell us what you are waiting for that cant wait till the end of the season then.

I agree Hughes has to be given until at least the season end, and perhaps next year, but that does not mean we have to pretend everything is rosy.

 

[goat boy]

Would anyone like to see an opinion piece on why City failed to win today, by a humble student of the game? NB the clue is where I've put this post. I'll either put it in here, or might start a new thread- what do we think?

If you think its because Hughes is "tactically naive" then stick it in here, if not then perhaps in a different thread.

Naive? I'm in two minds. I want to draw attention to the epic failure in his tactics today. Naivety or otherwise comes from their response now imo.

Ok then, let's get it over with, here we go-

This is how they set the team up, throughout the game.

------------ Shay ------------

Zabba -- Toure -- Lescott -- Bridge

------- Ireland --- Barry ----------



[Fucking enormous gap]



SWP -- Tevez -- Ade -- Bellers

This isnt even a 4-4-2. The starting positions were a 4-2-4, at every goal kick and in open play. And guess what? There were miles and miles of open green grass in midfield. There was a Burnley player settling down for a picnic in it, admiring the unspoilt view, at one point. Bellers and Shaun were way too far forward all of the time and Barry an Stevie, despite their best efforts, were hopelessly over-run and there was precisely cock all they could do about it. Everytime Burnley broke down the flanks, Stevie and Barry were coming wide to try and close them down, leaving tens of square metres of completely open space in the middle of the pitch. I blame no defender for fucking up when presented with so little protection and stability. I'd be bricking it.

Going forward, there was either a pass into/ through an outnumbered midfield (they played with 5 in there for much of the game) or a hoof towards Ade (who seemed indifferent to the game, to me) and 5ft tall Tevez. No wonder we did fuck all in the first half. Only when we got the ball down and SWP and Bellers strated to move deep was there any sort of fluency between midfield and attack. There were no angles anywhere, and no one in that front four had anywhere to go to try and draw a defender, they'd moving into a space where City already had 'an option'. Consequently, there was a line of statues at the top of the pitch.

Credit to Burnley for making the best of the relatively easy pickings they were offered.

I have advocated time and again a 4-3-3, I think it'll get the best out of this squad of players. Particurlarly Stephen and Shaun. If we don't see a change from the apparently preferred formation that is costing us points, I'm going to de camp. Hughesy, me old soon, I've leaned, at various angles, towards the IN camp while the berks on here have been mouthing off since day 1. However, I want a change in the attacking set up deployed, right away. Presumably we're not going to set up at Anfield this way, and if we do, God help us...

I seek only the correct response to a serious situation which appears to be developing. If no change is forthcoming, I'm off, and I could then become open to suggestions as to whom might be the correct coach for Manchester City. Seriously.

 

[citoeast]

If you think its because Hughes is "tactically naive" then stick it in here, if not then perhaps in a different thread.

Naive? I'm in two minds. I want to draw attention to the epic failure in his tactics today. Naivety or otherwise comes from their response now imo.

Ok then, let's get it over with, here we go-

This is how they set the team up, throughout the game.

------------ Shay ------------

Zabba -- Toure -- Lescott -- Bridge

------- Ireland --- Barry ----------



[Fucking enormous gap]



SWP -- Tevez -- Ade -- Bellers

This isnt even a 4-4-2. The starting positions were a 4-2-4, at every goal kick and in open play. And guess what? There were miles and miles of open green grass in midfield. There was a Burnley player settling down for a picnic in it, admiring the unspoilt view, at one point. Bellers and Shaun were way too far forward all of the time and Barry an Stevie, despite their best efforts, were hopelessly over-run and there was precisely cock all they could do about it. Everytime Burnley broke down the flanks, Stevie and Barry were coming wide to try and close them down, leaving tens of square metres of completely open space in the middle of the pitch. I blame no defender for fucking up when presented with so little protection and stability. I'd be bricking it.

Going forward, there was either a pass into/ through an outnumbered midfield (they played with 5 in there for much of the game) or a hoof towards Ade (who seemed indifferent to the game, to me) and 5ft tall Tevez. No wonder we did fuck all in the first half. Only when we got the ball down and SWP and Bellers strated to move deep was there any sort of fluency between midfield and attack. There were no angles anywhere, and no one in that front four had anywhere to go to try and draw a defender, they'd moving into a space where City already had 'an option'. Consequently, there was a line of statues at the top of the pitch.

Credit to Burnley for making the best of the relatively easy pickings they were offered.

I have advocated time and again a 4-3-3, I think it'll get the best out of this squad of players. Particurlarly Stephen and Shaun. If we don't see a change from the apparently preferred formation that is costing us points, I'm going to de camp. Hughesy, me old soon, I've leaned, at various angles, towards the IN camp while the berks on here have been mouthing off since day 1. However, I want a change in the attacking set up deployed, right away. Presumably we're not going to set up at Anfield this way, and if we do, God help us...

I seek only the correct response to a serious situation which appears to be developing. If no change is forthcoming, I'm off, and I could then become open to suggestions as to whom might be the correct coach for Manchester City. Seriously.

A seriously good post which I agree with, espeicially the statues and midfield gaps. Coyle swamped the midfield, with substitutes, when we were starting to run the game and Hughes failed to respond,oh he did put SWP and Petrov on the wrong wings, FFS.

 

[smithy167]

Tell us what you are waiting for that cant wait till the end of the season then.

I agree Hughes has to be given until at least the season end, and perhaps next year, but that does not mean we have to pretend everything is rosy.

Who`s saying everything is rosy? it aint, but also it aint the worst city have been according to you hughes is a nervous wreck who has lost it give it a rest man.

 

[citoeast]

I agree Hughes has to be given until at least the season end, and perhaps next year, but that does not mean we have to pretend everything is rosy.

Who`s saying everything is rosy? it aint, but also it aint the worst city have been according to you hughes is a nervous wreck who has lost it give it a rest man.

He was rattled.

 

[sweep]

Who`s saying everything is rosy? it aint, but also it aint the worst city have been according to you hughes is a nervous wreck who has lost it give it a rest man.

He was rattled.

Have just watched the interview I agree, he was clearly on the back foot, not surprising really having just conceded 3 to a side who have only scored 2 away all season.