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Ducado said:You have to feel for the fans
some of the stupid cunts are lapping it up.
fuck em.
Ducado said:You have to feel for the fans
Falastur said:PJMCC1UK said:What's the problem? They've only dropped AFC, something no one used anyway.
Is it any different than our name change, or that of Birmingham and all the others.
After 100 years it will just be another part of the clubs history. It is still Hull City. The tigers is still part of their identity. And hardly like they have any real ties to tigers in the first place but that lack of tradition doesn't bother them.
If they dropped Hull, to become Tigers FC, I could see the problem.
What happened with Wimbledon/MK Dons hasn't really changed anything. What they and Cardiff did are far worse but it hasn't created a precedent for all clubs. And I doubt this will either.
In the long run it may work as an appeal with foreign fans. and we'd be silly to think that football hasn't become about maximising foreign income.
I would argue that what Cardiff did has set the precedent for this to happen. I would also argue that one year is far, far too short a time to claim that a precedent has not been set - especially when off-field stuff like this generally happens in the close season and so barely any time has passed at all since Cardiff's colour change, and finally I'd say that I'm somewhat dismayed that it only took one season for another club to try something on in Cardiff's image. If anything I'd say that the precedent suggests that in future years, quite a few teams will try something like this now that not one but two clubs have shown a willingness to completely ignore their history and traditions in favour of re-branding a team to suit its owner.
The most stupid thing here is that, not having any glory, these teams will not appeal to the Asian glory hunters they are being prostituted to anyway, so the whole thing is just tragic.
PJMCC1UK said:Falastur said:PJMCC1UK said:What's the problem? They've only dropped AFC, something no one used anyway.
Is it any different than our name change, or that of Birmingham and all the others.
After 100 years it will just be another part of the clubs history. It is still Hull City. The tigers is still part of their identity. And hardly like they have any real ties to tigers in the first place but that lack of tradition doesn't bother them.
If they dropped Hull, to become Tigers FC, I could see the problem.
What happened with Wimbledon/MK Dons hasn't really changed anything. What they and Cardiff did are far worse but it hasn't created a precedent for all clubs. And I doubt this will either.
In the long run it may work as an appeal with foreign fans. and we'd be silly to think that football hasn't become about maximising foreign income.
I would argue that what Cardiff did has set the precedent for this to happen. I would also argue that one year is far, far too short a time to claim that a precedent has not been set - especially when off-field stuff like this generally happens in the close season and so barely any time has passed at all since Cardiff's colour change, and finally I'd say that I'm somewhat dismayed that it only took one season for another club to try something on in Cardiff's image. If anything I'd say that the precedent suggests that in future years, quite a few teams will try something like this now that not one but two clubs have shown a willingness to completely ignore their history and traditions in favour of re-branding a team to suit its owner.
The most stupid thing here is that, not having any glory, these teams will not appeal to the Asian glory hunters they are being prostituted to anyway, so the whole thing is just tragic.
MK Dons was a few years ago though. So it hasn't set a precedent. Yes Cardiff was last year, at the same time what they have done has been completely different to MK Dons. In turn what Hull have done is vastly different to both other teams.
So as yet no precedents set. Three vastly different changes. Badges change. In the past team colours changed. Leeds? People seem to act like Cardiff were the first to do this. Far from it.
We can look back at many changes within football that have happened over the years. Kit colours, names. None of which set any precedent. Yet now a foreign owner has done it we are up in arms. Like I said. In 100 years time this will just be a part of the clubs history like our history includes the name change and badge change.
The real importance is the location and Hull. The name Hull can never change. And again it is hardly a real tangent from their heritage. They are the tigers anyway. It is still part of their identity already.
As for the foreign fans. Not all foreigners are glory seekers like we all want to think. There are fans who may buy into this.
Can't see it myself. Whatever you may think of Whelan (and I couldn't stand the constant Ferguson arse kissing of him), he does seem to be a football man who would understand the importance of history.marco said:wigan will do it next